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Is Chosen One the most overhyped player of all time?

franklin said:
I forgot I had made this...


He was sold as the greatest player of all time. The guy who would take title GOAT away from MJ, and step over the corpses of all the other NBA greats. What has he done to prove those expectations correct? He has two full titles big whoop. Shaq bought that many too. He couldn't beat Dirk, only beat OKC because Rose went down and OKC traded away an all star to make the count 2 vs 3, and never beat San Antonio. The only reason he got that championship was because Danny Green's 3 point shooting went into the toilet. The Spurs beat themselves.

So what has he done to prove he isn't the most overhyped player of all time? When all is said and done I believe he'll fall from potentially #1 GOAT to somewhere in the 10-15 range.
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For me MJ is the GOAT. Non debatable.

It all boils down to one stat "6-0".

Lebron is a generational great but he has not lived up to his insane hype.
 
franklin said:
I forgot I had made this...


He was sold as the greatest player of all time. The guy who would take title GOAT away from MJ, and step over the corpses of all the other NBA greats. What has he done to prove those expectations correct? He has two full titles big whoop. Shaq bought that many too. He couldn't beat Dirk, only beat OKC because Rose went down and OKC traded away an all star to make the count 2 vs 3, and never beat San Antonio. The only reason he got that championship was because Danny Green's 3 point shooting went into the toilet. The Spurs beat themselves.

So what has he done to prove he isn't the most overhyped player of all time? When all is said and done I believe he'll fall from potentially #1 GOAT to somewhere in the 10-15 range.
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Stay salty bruh.

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I thought he was hyped as a superstar who would be the best player in the nba at some point and win championships.

Superstar, check
Best player in the league, check
Championships, check
****loads of mvp's, check

Career over with already, nope.


If you guys thought he would be greater than mj and win all teh championships then that's your own fault for over-hyping him.


He has already lived up to the expectations I had for him
 
Stoked said:
2-3 in the finals is not living up to his hype.
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This argument is so bad. In your mind 2-0 is better than 2-3, admit it. Now think about how stupid that is.

You also probably think that Montana's 4-0 is better than Brady's 4-2, also ridiculous.

5 finals appearances, that's impressive. Two wins is good too, think of all the great players who have none.

Oh and btw career isn't even over yet. What if he wins one back home in Cleveland?
 
Bawse Dawg said:
What is wrong with people today????

Coming out of High School top 5 ALL TIME is not living up to the hype? What the ****?
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Bawse Dawg said:
This argument is so bad. In your mind 2-0 is better than 2-3, admit it. Now think about how stupid that is.

You also probably think that Montana's 4-0 is better than Brady's 4-2, also ridiculous.

5 finals appearances, that's impressive. Two wins is good too, think of all the great players who have none.

Oh and btw career isn't even over yet. What if he wins one back home in Cleveland?
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Stay Salty Dawge.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
This argument is so bad. In your mind 2-0 is better than 2-3, admit it. Now think about how stupid that is.

You also probably think that Montana's 4-0 is better than Brady's 4-2, also ridiculous.

5 finals appearances, that's impressive. Two wins is good too, think of all the great players who have none.

Oh and btw career isn't even over yet. What if he wins one back home in Cleveland?
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Lebron's Hype is him being the GOAT. Anything less and he has not lived up to it, imo Unfair but that's the hype he gets. So I look at who I consider the GOAT. What I see is that 6-0 is much better than 2-3.

More finals appearances and more wins.

But to answer some of your unasked questions. Lebron is a stud and a once in a generation talent. Guy is phenominal, I'm not hating on him at all. I'd have him top 3 all time.


Edit: Previously said top 5 but Lebron is higher than that IMO.
 
franklin said:
I forgot I had made this...


He was sold as the greatest player of all time. The guy who would take title GOAT away from MJ, and step over the corpses of all the other NBA greats. What has he done to prove those expectations correct? He has two full titles big whoop. Shaq bought that many too. He couldn't beat Dirk, only beat OKC because Rose went down and OKC traded away an all star to make the count 2 vs 3, and never beat San Antonio. The only reason he got that championship was because Danny Green's 3 point shooting went into the toilet. The Spurs beat themselves.

So what has he done to prove he isn't the most overhyped player of all time? When all is said and done I believe he'll fall from potentially #1 GOAT to somewhere in the 10-15 range.
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I wouldn't blame Danny Green as much as I'd say the Heat were lucky as hell for the Spurs to fall apart, let Bosh luckily hit the ball out to Ray Allen who then hit the three to sink the Spurs' ship. Lebron would be 1-4 in Finals appearances if that hadn't happened. And I know we can always play what ifs but this is about as reasonable a what if as we get in sports history.
 
franklin said:
only beat OKC because Rose went down
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What does Rose have to do with Miami beating OKC in the Finals? If you're saying that Miami wouldn't have had a chance to play OKC in the Finals because Chicago with a healthy Rose would have beaten Miami in the East Finals, that's completely misguided conjecture. Miami beat Chicago in the East Finals the year before (Rose's MVP season) 4-1 with LeBron guarding Rose most of the series, and doing a damn fine job at it. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that Miami would have beaten them again, it just means it's delusional to assume they wouldn't have when they were obviously a better team than they were when they beat Chicago 4-1.

and OKC traded away an all star to make the count 2 vs 3
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You do realize that the Harden trade happened after Miami beat OKC in the Finals, right? The "star count" was 3 vs 3.

and never beat San Antonio.
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Huh. That's news to me.

So what has he done to prove he isn't the most overhyped player of all time? When all is said and done I believe he'll fall from potentially #1 GOAT to somewhere in the 10-15 range.
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That doesn't seem anywhere near the type of drop as plenty of other hyped players coming into the league. Greg Oden was often referred to as a modern day Bill Russell and the dude has barely even played 82 games in his entire career. That's just one example.

You can argue that LeBron was over hyped (the expectations couldn't have been higher), but to call him the most over hyped player of all time? Pure hyperbole in a discussion that has no way of proving said claim in a quantifiable manner in the first place.
 
spycam1 said:
What does Rose have to do with Miami beating OKC in the Finals? If you're saying that Miami wouldn't have had a chance to play OKC in the Finals because Chicago with a healthy Rose would have beaten Miami in the East Finals, that's completely misguided conjecture. Miami beat Chicago in the East Finals the year before (Rose's MVP season) 4-1 with LeBron guarding Rose most of the series, and doing a damn fine job at it. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that Miami would have beaten them again, it just means it's delusional to assume they wouldn't have when they were obviously a better team than they were when they beat Chicago 4-1.



You do realize that the Harden trade happened after Miami beat OKC in the Finals, right? The "star count" was 3 vs 3.



Huh. That's news to me.



That doesn't seem anywhere near the type of drop as plenty of other hyped players coming into the league. Greg Oden was often referred to as a modern day Bill Russell and the dude has barely even played 82 games in his entire career. That's just one example.

You can argue that LeBron was over hyped (the expectations couldn't have been higher), but to call him the most over hyped player of all time? Pure hyperbole in a discussion that has no way of proving said claim in a quantifiable manner in the first place.
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Basically, franklin the troll is back doin his thang
 
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