Outside of the occasional hustle play, he has been terrible. My favorite moment was when he dived to save a loose ball, under the opponents goal........
Is Jeremy Evans About To Go Up in Smoke?
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Outside of the occasional hustle play, he has been terrible. My favorite moment was when he dived to save a loose ball, under the opponents goal........
Jazz4ever
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He doesn't have much in the way of SF skills obviously, but anyone could make a strong argument Evans rebounding, shot blocking, lobs, and other intangibles outweigh what little shooting CJ brings. If you don't think management is taking advantage of Evans, you are very, very naive. And it will be proved when they resign him and let CJ go.
theNBAnerd
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haha, taking advantage of him?! he's the 13th best basketball player on a 14-man roster. the case could be made that he's taking advantage of them, chief.
Jazz4ever
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haha, taking advantage of him?! he's the 13th best basketball player on a 14-man roster. the case could be made that he's taking advantage of them, chief.
So are you going on record as saying Miles (your better player) gets resigned while Evans does not? Yes or no?
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green
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Miles will be let go, and Evans kept, but for none of the reasons you state. Evans is cheap, sits at the end of the bench and doesn't complain. CJ is older, demands minutes, will cost more, and brings the same. So, CJ will be gone, and Evans will be resigned to stay at the end of the bench and wave a towel.
Evans got 0 minutes even with Sap being moved to the 3. If Sap-Favors-Jefferson starting lineup doesn't get Evans regular minutes, I don't think anything will besides an injury.
gregbroncs
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ehh. Evans has not shown enough to be a rotation player. He is not a SF and he is not better than any of our other PF's or C's.
freakazoid
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Lol, no. Evans has no leg to stand on. Rookies that don't really fit into any position don't demand minutes. They thank their lucky stars to be playing in the NBA. Funny thing about this, though, is that Bell and Watson really shouldn't think they're in a position to be demanding minutes, either. This is why I believe that our FO used playing time as a selling point when signing these guys. Raja is kind of an idiot anyway, but Watson doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would be barking about minutes, unless he felt like he sold on something that wasn't being delivered.
Sorry man, but NERD has been pretty much right on with everything he's said here. Utah is not concerned with signing Jeremy on the cheap, because they're never going to have minutes for him, outside of a few backup minutes. It's quite possible they let CJ go and keep Evans around, but he's never going to play significant minutes for us, and probably not for anyone else, either.
Weezur
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Evans should get some time over Carrolle. They both can't pass or shoot. Carrolle can dribble a little and Evans, maybe, maybe not.
There's a lot of time to be had when Corbin subs out Kanter super early.
Corbin should also use Evans when there's a small lineup being used by the other team.
There's a lot of time to be had when Corbin subs out Kanter super early.
Corbin should also use Evans when there's a small lineup being used by the other team.
prodigy
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Carroll's game(at least from what i've seen) appears to be shooting jump shots on the perimeter. Which I find strange since I don't know that he's the type of player to be considered a shooter. On the occasions he drives to the hoop it rarely ends well. I'd take Evans athletic ability around the hoops on both ends over anything Caroll brings. Can Evans play the 3? I may be wrong but I dont' know if there is enough evidence to say he can't. Is it going to be a uphill battle to prove himself, yes, all i can do is wish him the best.
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gregbroncs
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Yet Evans has not learned to do any of those 3 things in how many years playing basketball?
With the new potential change of Sap to the 3, Evans now has a slot at the 4, if Corbin wishes to play him.
homeytennis
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We're talking about the NBA slam dunk champion.
I am not so sure you are correct that he can't do those things, or that the team has ever encouraged him to try to do anything on offense besides dunks.
I think he has a better shot of getting a real role as a 3 than as a 4.
Then he's not an NBA player because there's an even smaller chance of that happening. Not everyone can look like Arnold and I'm continually shocked that so many people don't understand that.
Weron Dilliams
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Listen, none of us know who Jeremy Evans truly is. When he gets a good 4 minutes of playing time (on a good day) he proves to be a spark, and an effective over-the-rim player. Corbin needs to let evan play - play when evans is frustrated offensively and being destroyed defensively, but also play when he is on fire offensively and providing monster blocks defensively. Corbin needs to let evans PLAY. If jeremy proves to be a detriment to the jazz, then don't play him! BUT NOBODY KNOWS BECAUSE HE DOESNT PLAY
gregbroncs
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While very limited. The minutes Evans has played he has not shown to have any of those skills. His passes are worse than Kanter (who's a rookie), His ball handling ability is worse than everybody on the roster not named Kanter (who may be better as well), And his shot has been non-existant (if he had one why won't he even try and take one).
theNBAnerd
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no, but nice try at reducing this to a straw-man argument so that you could win a side battle that has nothing to do with what we're actually debating.
miles IS better in absolute terms than evans, and i think all 30 teams agree with me on that one. as a free agent, miles will get serious attention, and might even get some offers for most or all of the MLE. but one thing is sure: he'll get looks because people know what he can do on the floor. at this point jeremy's market value is much lower because -- aside from a dunk contest nobody cares about and some late-game alley-oops -- he is a total unknown. he'll probably get some attention, but since he'll be an RFA, the most likely scenario is either the jazz wait for the market to set his value or he just accepts the QO.
so "CJ is better than evans" doesn't necessarily mean we sign CJ and not evans, because you have factor in price, expected production, positional issues, etc. i think there is a great chance neither guy comes back, but if it comes down to one or the other, i think they'd rather re-sign evans for the minimum than CJ for another 3.7m/yr contract.