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Is Nene available?

franklin said:
The same report came out in the NJ talks. They were already adding Billups, but wanted to squeeze Harrington in as well. They don't have a whole lot on the books next season as it is (K-Mart and JR Smith come off, and a $14mm team option on Billups), so they might be flexible in who to let go at this point. I have them at 33.1 committed next season after your trade, and pretty much nothing the following year. That would give them a lot of firepower in FA, but they need something to entice the stars. That's why they're after draft picks. I think they either need to get picks or need at least a skeleton core to start with.

This makes more sense to me even though there are some pieces missing (i.e. I hate Artest to Utah): https://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6x983c2
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That's probably the most realistic of the trades posted in this thread so far, but I don't like it. Artest has a bad contract and Millsap has a good one.
 
franklin said:
Nene is good enough that I'd trade Millsap for him. Your trade proposal made no sense to me. For one thing, both Bynum and Nene are injury prone. Denver doesn't need to clear Nene out to make room for Bynum. I think they'd go with both, at least for the year. For another, there's not a whole lot in it for Portland, and Denver doesn't have to include Utah to make the Bynum-for-Crymelo trade work. You're proposing they do it to dump future salary, but that's at a huge cost this year.
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Nene's injury prone if you consider cancer an injury.
 
I've mentioned Nene as a Jazzman before, and still like him. I doubt Denver has renewed interest in AK; I understand they backed out of the ESPN-mentioned 4-team trade earlier largely because they decided against taking on AK's contract...
 
NUMBERICA said:
Do you consider cancer an injury? Because since then, he's missed something like 14 games in 3 years. It was a real comment... oversensitive dumbass.
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Have you seen his career injury list? We'll see if he holds up (and I hope he does).

You're stretching in your typical juvenile trollish ways.
 
franklin said:
Have you seen his career injury list? We'll see if he holds up (and I hope he does).

You're stretching in your typical juvenile trollish ways.
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Trusting numberica is right, I'm curious how you argue that Nene's injury-prone when he's missed just five games in the last three years.
 
I'm curious. I've always liked Nene and thought he was, or at least had the potential to be, a very good interior defender. But is he? In almost 31 minutes a night, he has just 7.3 rebounds and 0.8 blocks per game. I know we can't measure his defensive play by two simple stats alone but this doesn't leave me very confident. That said, 15.3ppg on 64.4% from the floor is sick and 76.0% from the line ain't too shabby either for a center. I'd trade Big Al for Nene. I have a feeling we could get a pick out of that too.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Trusting numberica is right, I'm curious how you argue that Nene's injury-prone when he's missed just five games in the last three years.
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He's been solid the last 3 seasons including this one. Judge for yourself after reading about previous seasons. I don't give a damn about playing a game of semantics with a teenage troll. If you don't want to call him injury prone then I don't really give a rats ***.

January 28, 2011 Missed 1 game (calf injury).
January 26, 2011 Calf injury, day-to-day.
January 1, 2011 Missed 1 game (hamstring).
December 29, 2010 Hamstring, day-to-day.
November 8, 2010 Missed 3 games (groin).
November 3, 2010 Groin, day-to-day.
April 30, 2010 Missed 1 playoff game (left knee injury).
March 28, 2009 Missed 2 games (suspension).
March 25, 2009 Suspended by the NBA for two games.
February 27, 2009 Missed 2 games (bruised right knee).
February 23, 2009 Bruised right knee, early March.
December 31, 2008 Missed 1 game (neck injury).
December 29, 2008 Neck injury, day-to-day.
April 23, 2008 Missed the last 6 games of the regular season and Game 1 of Round One against the Los Angeles Lakers (groin).
April 8, 2008 Groin, day-to-day.
March 27, 2008 Missed 37 games (personal reasons).
January 11, 2008 Personal reasons, day-to-day.
December 26, 2007 Missed 22 games (left thumb injury).
November 8, 2007 Left thumb injury, sidelined indefinitely.
April 22, 2007 Missed the last game of the regular season (rest).
April 18, 2007 Rest, day-to-day.
January 5, 2007 Missed 4 games (knee injury).
December 29, 2006 Knee injury, day-to-day.
December 18, 2006 Suspended by the NBA for one game for leaving the bench on Dec 16 against the New York Knicks.
December 8, 2006 Missed 12 games (bruised right knee).
November 12, 2006 Bruised right knee, inactive list.
October 30, 2006 Sore right knee, inactive list.
July 22, 2006 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Denver Nuggets to a six-year contract.
April 22, 2006 Did not make playoff roster.
April 19, 2006 Missed 81 games (torn right ACL).
November 2, 2005 Torn right ACL, inactive list.
March 20, 2005 Missed 13 games (left knee injury).
February 14, 2005 Left knee injury, injured list.
January 25, 2005 Missed 5 games (suspension).
January 15, 2005 Suspended by the NBA for four games for his actions on Jan 14 against the Minnesota Timberwolves.
December 17, 2004 Missed 2 games (hip injury).
December 14, 2004 Hip injury, day-to-day.
November 21, 2004 Missed 8 games (hamstring).
November 6, 2004 Hamstring, sidelined indefinitely.
November 4, 2004 Hamstring, day-to-day.
October 29, 2004 Denver Nuggets exercised their 2005-06 contract option.
November 28, 2003 Missed 5 games (strained left groin).
November 18, 2003 Strained left groin, day-to-day.
December 7, 2002 Missed 1 game (neck injury).
December 6, 2002 Neck injury, day-to-day.
July 23, 2002 Signed by the Denver Nuggets to a three-year contract.
 
I'm the teenage troll? You need to calm down.

P.S. Are you also arguing that Dwyane Wade is injury-prone?
 
Unless I missed it nobody has mentioned that Nene has a player option next year. That makes this a no-deal unless he signs an extension.
 
vegas said:
Unless I missed it nobody has mentioned that Nene has a player option next year. That makes this a no-deal unless he signs an extension.
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I think he would. The cool part is that even if Nene wouldn't sign an extension and if the Nuggets would do Nene for AK straight up, the Jazz still would be far better off (which is why Denver wouldn't do that).
 
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