Is the projected core FATALLY FLAWED?

[fishonjazz]

Agreed, but the best chance to get it (outside a Gobert type of draft steal) is to play as well as possible with the current team so that you might find yourself in a position to trade (for example's sake, don't shoot me) Favors and Burks for Kevin Love, hoping for Kevin Love to be able to again be the offensive juggernaut you need him to be while Exum/Gobert and others cover for his defensive weaknesses.

This is purely hypothetical of course, but the best way to get that +++ player is for this team to be as successfull as possible.

I agree.
I hear that cp3 and kyrie might be on the trade block and we have the assests to aquire them... Possibly without giving up favors, rudy, hayward or hood.

Lyles, exum, 4 firsts in the next two drafts, and Burks is a pretty good amount of assets to work something out

 

[Getting Traded]

CP3 is getting on in age, Kevin Love is overrated, and Kyrie, well let's see how Dante develops -- we really don't know what we have in Dante until we get to see him next year. Yes, the season has been disappointing, mainly because of injuries, and while Rudy is back, he doesn't seem to be 100 percent, physically. Let's just chill a bit and let things play out.

 

[veji1]

CP3 is getting on in age, Kevin Love is overrated, and Kyrie, well let's see how Dante develops -- we really don't know what we have in Dante until we get to see him next year. Yes, the season has been disappointing, mainly because of injuries, and while Rudy is back, he doesn't seem to be 100 percent, physically. Let's just chill a bit and let things play out.

Of course, but no team in the league is going to get Lillard or Davis or someone like that in a trade... When Boston got Garnett he was deemed in decline and Allen was not the same anymore, etc.. My example is just an example but put Love in a team that is really good on D and can not only help mitigate this weakness but motivate him to get better + give him again the ball on O a lot more to help generate doubles and open the floor and it might help your team go one level up compared to what we have. But as you say the important thing is to chill, keep trusting this team an make it grow to its full potential.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I like how you capitalized 'FATALLY FLAWED' it really helped drive home the point of how smart you are and what a SERIOUS issue this is.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I agree.
I hear that cp3 and kyrie might be on the trade block and we have the assests to aquire them... Possibly without giving up favors, rudy, hayward or hood.

Lyles, exum, 4 firsts in the next two drafts, and Burks is a pretty good amount of assets to work something out

In my opinion this is just horrible for the Jazz. I believe Exum will be as good, or better then Kyrie, and cp3 is a little older. This roster isn't flawed no one has reached their prime, and none of the core have finished improving. This is still the 4th youngest roster in the league with a young head coach. That cake is still rising and rising. We will still continue to draft key contributors, and our bench will be pretty damned good in a couple years. Best bench in the league potential. Burks is one of the best bench scorers, and Lyles is going to be ten times the player he is now in a year or two. There won't be a 4 in the league that will be able to stop him on the perimeter. Both Neto and Mack have potential to be one of the better backup pg's in the league. I'm not sure why Coach Q doesn't utilize Whithy off the bench? (My biggest gripe with his coaching) he should be stealing some of Bookers mins.

Getting one of those guys for potentially our best player and all of our depth is a little insane in my view.

 

[fishonjazz]

In my opinion this is just horrible for the Jazz. I believe Exum will be as good, or better then Kyrie, and cp3 is a little older. This roster isn't flawed no one has reached their prime, and none of the core have finished improving. This is still the 4th youngest roster in the league with a young head coach. That cake is still rising and rising. We will still continue to draft key contributors, and our bench will be pretty damned good in a couple years. Best bench in the league potential. Burks is one of the best bench scorers, and Lyles is going to be ten times the player he is now in a year or two. There won't be a 4 in the league that will be able to stop him on the perimeter. Both Neto and Mack have potential to be one of the better backup pg's in the league. I'm not sure why Coach Q doesn't utilize Whithy off the bench? (My biggest gripe with his coaching) he should be stealing some of Bookers mins.

Getting one of those guys for potentially our best player and all of our depth is a little insane in my view.

It's insane to me how much faith you have in exum

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Many of us, and I admit I was slow to agree, saw the DWill, Boozer, Okur, AK and Harpring team as fatally flawed, namely because certain players couldn't play defense, while others had questionable fortitude.

I see the same outcome for this group, but flawed because the defense cannot ever compensate for the horrific offensive. Jazz have one player who is worthless on offense unless he gets lobs or offensive rebounds (Gobert). Favors is good inside and has decent range, out to 15-18 feet or so. Hayward has a bit more, but is not really a 3PT threat (36% on 5 attempts/per). In fact, the Jazz have ZERO players shooting 40% or better from behind the arc. I think Hood has that potential, though. As for PG's, yes, Exum WILL likely be an improvement over the trio that is currently getting minutes. But let's not forget he shot 35%/31% and is coming off a terrible injury.

Hate to say it, but I don't see the Exum, Hood, Hayward, Favors, Gobert lineup as being all that special. They'll never contend.

U have one of my the biggest defeatist attitudes I've ever seen. U need to chill the hell out with this garbage. This team is far from a finished product.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

It's insane to me how much faith you have in exum

I'm a calculated gambling man and faith is my best asset, And when Exum rises, maybe then u will too. I just see a tone of JKidd and Prime Harris in Exum. Call me crazy, but I think this injury will be a blessing in disguise concerning his leadership and mental makeup potential.

He's going to be a bad assssssssssssss!!!!!

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I'm a calculated gambling man and faith is my best asset, And when Exum rises, maybe then u will too. I just see a tone of JKidd and Prime Harris in Exum. Call me crazy, but I think this injury will be a blessing in disguise concerning his leadership and mental makeup potential.

He's going to be a bad assssssssssssss!!!!!

Cool. U can say ***

 

[Bawse Dawg]

U have one of my the biggest defeatist attitudes I've ever seen. U need to chill the hell out with this garbage. This team is far from a finished product.

Really? Coming from you? You are even worse in the opposite direction.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Really? Coming from you? You are even worse in the opposite direction.

Thank you


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[Crawlnstall]

I don't think we are fatally flawed, but I do worry about the make up of our team. Last year when our defense was legit we could see our offense benefit, but this year our defense isn't as elite as it was last year(which isnt a surprise with our injuries and teams scouting us closer) and our offense has fallen way flat.
We need a go to scorer if we wanna compete in the playoffs. Hood is developing really nice, but I don't see him being that elite scorer that we need to compete.
We really need help with our PG play, and I'm hoping that Exum comes back healthy and ready to ball