Dude, can you not read? Pretty sure my wording was correct enough for it to make sense and that I thought it wasn't racist, just friends messing with each other. If it was a random person, it might be racist.
Is this racist?
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Dude, can you not read? Pretty sure my wording was correct enough for it to make sense and that I thought it wasn't racist, just friends messing with each other. If it was a random person, it might be racist.
Yep, he's never here.
In answer to the original question: I'm not sure. I don't know enough about the French culture to say whether being compared to non-human primates was a common way to depict black people as sub-human. Had that been a post by Favors, the answer would be yes.
Not funny, even when meant sarcastically.
Not funny, even when meant sarcastically.
I think this is a cultural issue.
Rudy is french and probably unfamiliar with the ins and outs of American racism and its history with slavery and the subjugation of black people.
Posting pictures equating black people to monkey's is ****ing racist in America (it may be in other countries as well, but I don't know). It's a common insult used to put down black people in this country.
Rudy probably doesn't know this. I would not be surprised if Rush was offended, but I don't think Rudy meant it that way.
Rudy is french and probably unfamiliar with the ins and outs of American racism and its history with slavery and the subjugation of black people.
Posting pictures equating black people to monkey's is ****ing racist in America (it may be in other countries as well, but I don't know). It's a common insult used to put down black people in this country.
Rudy probably doesn't know this. I would not be surprised if Rush was offended, but I don't think Rudy meant it that way.
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Sounds like the mods don't cotton much to those posts.
cotton to vb (intr, preposition)
1. to become friendly with
2.to approve of
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003
Sexual Favors
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As has already been pointed out, comparing a black person to an ape is a common racist insult in America. If you're saying Rudy is racist, it has to be self-racism, or his white half hating on his black half.
https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/getting-to-know-trey-burke-rudy-gobert-and-raul-neto-a-little-more/
https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/getting-to-know-trey-burke-rudy-gobert-and-raul-neto-a-little-more/
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Monkeys are probably the most popular subject matter when it comes to racist chants at soccer games in France, and in Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_association_football#France
All humans are apes. However, in the US (and apparently France), this is used to specifically dehumanize black people.
Black people, being fully human, also engage in racism, to their own detriment.
Sexual Favors
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I don't deny that. I was positing two scenarios for what kind of racism it could have been. People of all races can be racist toward their own race. 8'm sure the tweet was light-hearted, but that doesn't mean he wasn't aware of the implied racism, and making fun of it as well.
carolinajazz
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...speak for yourself, Brow! From the standpoint of evolution, the obvious gulf between man and ape today is strange. Evolutionary theory holds that as animals progressed up the evolutionary scale, they became more capable of surviving. Why, then, is the “inferior” ape family still in existence, but not a single one of the presumed intermediate forms, which were supposed to be more advanced in evolution? Today we see chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans, but no “ape-men.” Does it seem likely that every one of the more recent and supposedly more advanced “links” between apelike creatures and modern man should have become extinct, but not the lower apes?
The evidence is clear that belief in “ape-men” is unfounded. Instead, humans have all the earmarks of being created—separate and distinct from any animal. Humans reproduce only after their own kind. They do so today and have always done so in the past. Any apelike creatures that lived in the past were just that—apes, or monkeys—not humans. And fossils of ancient humans that differ slightly from humans of today simply demonstrate variety within the human family, just as today we have many varieties living side by side. There are seven-foot humans and there are pygmies, with varying sizes and shapes of skeletons. But all belong to the same human “kind,” not animal “kind.”