Israel Commences Ground Invasion into Gaza.

[DutchJazzer]

At the risk of another neg by Dutch, could someone please enlighten me on this?

dont worry must spread first

 

[DutchJazzer]

Never defended Hamas, never do, but like the people of the UK parliament emphatically stated in the whole video, it's just too out of proportion and no one can do anything about it. Israel is just enjoying it.

actually the world can do a lot.

 

[The Midnight]

dont worry must spread first

You're a great example for the Israelis and the Palestinian to follow bro.


Keep spreading the hate. (NOT).

 

[Jamezz]

All I know is the US has armed Israel to their teeth in a way that if any country pretended to attack Israel it would be like committing suicide. Same thing if any country attacks the US directly. That's why I believe in minding our own business and sending the troops back home. With all the money that has been spent overseas with preemptive wars we could have solved all the issues we face at home. We have a bigger problem in our own southern border than in a border thousands of miles away from us. Too much damage has been done already, enough with making more enemies, enough with making false "friends", and back to developing from the inside out and not the other way around, the way it all started.

 

[ema]

actually the world can do a lot.

As long as the US continue to support Israel no matter they do, the world can do very little.

when children and civilians get killed by israel. it is a casualty of war. because israel targets hamas dudes. but hey if you go in the vincinity of some hamas dude. and a missile hit dont be suprised.

but when hamas tries to murder people with their rockets. they dont aim/target anything they just aimlessly fire it towards israel.

so yeah who is guilty??
casualties of war is not murder.
firing a loaded gun in a crowd is!(which is exaclty what hammas is doing

You have no idea or whatsoever about what's a war, what's targetting, what's casualties and what's war crime at all.

Destroying civilian infrastructure is a war crime under the Geneva Convention.

Also,

*The indiscriminate or disproportionate use of force

*Collective punishment for the acts of a few

*Targeting civilians (do you seriously believe Israel doesn't target civilians?)

are war crimes under the Geneva Convention.

The recent tensions began about six weeks ago when Israeli forces abducted 17 Palestinian teenage boys in the occupied West Bank. Then, on June 12, three Israeli teenagers were abducted in the southern West Bank; Israel blamed Hamas. After the three youths were found dead, a group of Israelis tortured and killed a Palestinian teenager in Jerusalem. Finally, on July 7, Israel launched a large military operation dubbed “Operation Protective Edge” in the Gaza Strip.

During the past week, Israel has killed 162 Palestinian civilians and counting, including 34 children. In addition to more than 1,200 Israeli airstrikes, Israel has threatened to launch a ground invasion of Gaza. Israel attacked a center for the mentally and physically disabled in Beit Zahiya, killing three patients and a nurse. In addition, Israel has stepped up demolitions of Palestinian homes, and administrative detentions of Palestinians without charge or trial.

The UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs(OCHA) reported that 77 percent of the people Israel has killed in Gaza were civilians.

Causality my ***.

From Human Rights Watch..
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/09/israel-killing-children-apparent-war-crime

Also, did you hear Israeli Deputy Prime Minister saying “We Must Blow Gaza Back to the Middle Ages Destroying All the Infrastructure Including Roads and Water”, this saying itself only is an intention of war crime.

Just other few examples for you..

Israel bombed a rehabilitation center for people with disabilities in Jabaliya, in northern Gaza, killing four people, including a nurse and three disabled people. Others were severely burned by the explosion. Another two were killed and four wounded in an attack on a home for the disabled in Beit Lahiya.

Eight Palestinian men who were watching the World Cup semifinal match at a café were killed by an Israeli air strike. The café was a well-known local gathering place, particularly popular in the evening during Ramadan, when observant Muslims fast during the day and eat only after dark.

Israeli warplanes have repeatedly targeted the families of Hamas and Islamic Jihad officials, killing five members of the Hamad family in Beit Hanoun, eight members of the Kawara family, including six children aged 8 to 13, and a staggering 17 members of the Al-Taysh family, in an effort to kill Gaza’s chief of police,

Israeli airstrikes hit El Wafa Medical Rehabilitation Hospital in Gaza City five separate times Friday, according to its executive director Basman Alashi. The strikes destroyed the rooftop water containers that supply the hospital’s 30 patients.

More than 1,000 private homes have been destroyed or heavily damaged by airstrikes, clear evidence that Israel is deliberately targeting the civilian population of Gaza, in violation of the Geneva Conventions.

Those wounded by the airstrikes are further endangered by the policy, enforced by Israel and Egypt, of restricting the passage of medical supplies into Gaza. Many hospitals are already running low on basic medicines and another 10 days of bombardment would mean catastrophe, doctors and medical relief workers said. The Israeli-Egyptian blockade has also affected fuel supplies for ambulances, which are unable to provide effective emergency services in the territory for lack of gasoline.

A mosque in Al-Nuseirat, in central Gaza, was destroyed in overnight raids Saturday night, one of dozens of such strikes on buildings where large numbers of Palestinians gather, with the risk of exterminating entire family groups.

[*]Palestinian journalist Hamed Shehab was incinerated July 9 when an Israeli missile struck the car he was driving, clearly marked as “TV” with large red letters. Shehab worked for the local press outlet Media 24. The Palestinian Journalists Syndicate condemned this killing as a “deliberate and planned crime to discourage Palestinian journalists from showing occupation crimes and horrors of collective punishment against the Gaza Strip.”

List of international laws Israel have broken

• Violation of the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination as codified in Res. 1514 (XV) and 2625 (XXV), and recognized by the ICJ in its decision on the Wall.

• Violation of customary law, human rights norms (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the ICRC in 2005, Rule 132, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights Art. 12(2)) by prohibiting the return of Palestinian refugees to their homes.

• Violation of the Security Council (UNSC) Resolutions requiring Israel to withdraw from the Occupied Territory (87 resolutions to this day) and the UN Charter which obliges the Member States to “carry out the decisions of the Security Council” (Art. 25).

• Violation of “[…] the principle of the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war” (UNSC Res. 242), as well as the Security Council Resolutions condemning the annexation of Jerusalem.3

• Violation of the Palestinian people’s right to their natural resources and wealth through the Israeli use of Palestinian agricultural land, the exploitation of Palestinian water reserves and preventing Palestinian access to more than 10% of their safe drinking water reserves (A/RES/64/292).

• Violation of international humanitarian law prohibiting:

• the establishment of Israeli settlements (4th 1949 Geneva Convention (GC), Art. 49 and 147), the expulsions of Palestinians from their territory (id.);

• the demolitions and expropriations of Arab houses and lands situated in the occupied country (1907 Hague Regulations, Art. 46 and 55);

• mistreatment, torture and prolonged administrative detention of Palestinians in Israeli prisons (4th GC, Art. 3, 32 and 78);

• non-compliance with the right of return of Palestinian refugees to their homes (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in 2005, Rule 132);

• military attacks against civilians, indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks against Gaza and Palestinian refugees camps (customary international humanitarian law, ICRC Compendium Rules 1 and 14);

• collective punishment of the Palestinian population of Gaza, where the World Health Organization reports that life will not be sustainable by the year 2020 (Art. 33, GC);

• the terms articulated by the 2004 ICJ decision on the Wall.

• Violation of fundamental rights and freedoms such as freedom of movement, freedom of religion, right to work, to health, to education because of the Israeli Wall and check-points in the Occupied Territory which prevent Palestinian free access to their work place, school, health services and religious places (1966 Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Art. 12 and 18; id. on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, Art. 6, 12, 13).

• Violation of the prohibition of discrimination based on national origin through Israeli policies and practices akin to Apartheid (2011 Cape Town findings of this Tribunal), which have denied Palestinians a functioning nationality both within Israel proper as well as the Occupied Territory and beyond.

Among these violations of international law, several of them are criminally sanctioned: war crimes,4 crimes against humanity,5 and the crime of Apartheid.6 Because of their systematic, numerous, flagrant and, sometimes, criminal character, these violations are of a particularly high gravity.

The US is also accompanying and supporting Israel in many things and cases.

• By enabling and financing Israel’s violations of international humanitarian and human rights norms, the US is guilty of complicity in international wrongful acts per Article 16 of the International Law Commission’s Draft Articles on Responsibility of States and therefore also responsible for the violations endured by the Palestinian people as well as the affront to the international system;

• By obstructing accountability for violations of the Geneva Conventions, the US has failed to meet its obligations as a High Contracting Party per Common Article 1;

• In continuing to provide economic support for settlement expansion despite occasional expressions of disapproval, the US is also in violation of the International Court of Justice’s jurisprudence, particularly paragraph 163(D) in its decision on the Wall;

• By stonewalling an international resolution to the conflict by abusing its veto power within the Security Council and its political/economic/diplomatic clout in the General Assembly, the US is in violation of several provisions of the UN Charter, in particular Article 24;

• By failing to condition military aid to Israel based on its compliance with human rights norms and strict adherence to the law of self-defense, the US is in violation of its own domestic law.

 

[DutchJazzer]

TL;DR


only saw picture.

btw that picture is not true and is propaganda
btw where is pre 1947 in that picture ooh wait i got it for you (counter with another picture)

sadly non of these pictures resemble the real honest to god 100% truth.
they are only a snapshot in a very recent/short time


jsut another pciture for you:

 

[DutchJazzer]

again ECTYA, what makes the abritry tiem from 1946/47. why choose to see it from that timeline? was that the creation of time
because that is the most convenient timeline to "show" loss of land in a Palestinian advantage. pre "1947"(aka the 20's) there is no way to establish loss of land in favor of palestinains

another pic for you

between the black line belongs to israel.


so yeah lets ignore everything pre 1947 and just erase rewrite everything before 1947.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

Damn, Palestine's done kicked their *** for a thousand years then, huh?

 

[ema]

TL;DR


only saw picture.

btw that picture is not true and is propaganda

can counter it with another picture.

sadly non of these pictures resemble the real truth.
they are only a snapshot in a very recent/short time

This picture is more about illegal settlements of Israel under the international laws and recognition. Not about a circle of historical land debate. If it were the case, like another poster said before, the dinosaurs should own the lands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

 

[DutchJazzer]

This picture is more about illegal settlements of Israel under the international laws and recognition. Not about a circle of historical land debate. If it were the case, like another poster said before, the dinosaurs should own the lands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

ooh really? that picture is about supposed loss of land.
Israelites got kicked out of israel(or whatever you think that land is called) between 1920 and 1929.
kicked out and murdered. untill after 2nd world war they came back to claim what was rightfully theirs.

also wikipedia is edited by everyone.
not really the truth.
anyone can edit wikipedia.
is like popular opinion counts.
not the truth

 

[DutchJazzer]

Damn, Palestine's done kicked their *** for a thousand years then, huh?

jep turning the other cheeck did not work.

so game time has come

 

[Jamezz]

ooh really?
isrealies got kicked out of israel(or whatever you think that land iscalled) between 1920 and 1929.
kicked out and murdered. untill after 2nd world war they came back to claim what was rightfully there's

I hope what you're standing up so passionately for is the Israeli people, not the corrupt, evil doing zionist government of Israel. The people are the people, no matter where they're from and just want to have the best possible life they can.

Best is to leave the borders as they look now and not stir the pot anymore. I'm suspicious about the origins of Hamas, the bullying seems to come out so easily these days...