It is time consider trade Hayward

[Maneesh]

seriously dude, on what planet do you think getting rid of hayward would in any way be the same as GS getting rid of a ball hogging inefficient malcontent ? There is so little chance of any draft pick we'd get in return being even remotely what Hayward is that it's just a fallacy to contemplate.

As for getting the all coveted "franchise player" who will magically take over games ... that is so unlikely to happen and highly unlikely in Utah. The only hope for that is Exum, and if he's a bust the only hope is building a team of fringe all stars.

Or with draft picks you silly goose!

 

[Maneesh]

did you actually watch Ellis play then ??

And who exactly is the player on the Jazz who the organization feels is pushing to take Haywards role ? And is there friction about playing time / roles on the team ?

It is a little cute I think hear you talk about hayward so fond like an untouchabel

 

[Maneesh]

dude it wasn't exactly a secret there was tension, you don't have to look to far https://www.sfgate.com/sports/jenki...eet-for-Stephen-Curry-Monta-Ellis-5309110.php first paragraph sums it up. So no, not confused about his tenure at Dallas where all was rosy.

I love Hood but he and Hayward are not in the same category.

I hope you can know that Hood plays like 90 games only and is much better already in the span as Hayward.

 

[franklin]

Actually there is a lot in common:

1. Both were the best players on their teams at the time.
2. Both were putting up good stats but couldn't make the all-star team

Ball Hogging?
Ellis' Career in Golden State (7 seasons): 4.4 assists/game
Hayward's Career in Utah (6 seasons): 3.4 assists/game

Inefficient?
Ellis' Career in Golden State (7 seasons): 17.0 PER
Hayward's Career in Utah (6 seasons): 16.9 PER

Ellis has 1 season aboveHayward's careeraverage shooting efficiency. And Hayward is still improving.

Some stats might be similar but I would put Hayward ahead of Ellis in total impact on both ends of the court.