Jackpotting Around Episode 34 - Giannis and Other Things
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Jaanipoeg
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It's winning the lottery two years in a row (#1 this year and likely top 2/3 for AJ) plus Doncic not just signing a max extension and going all the way to free agency instead of demanding a trade plus Doncic choosing to join a super young team that was a dumpster fire the previous 4 seasons (not to mention it being Utah) instead of team with a more clear path to contention around him.
I think going after Giannis is way, way more likely, he would be without a doubt the best player the Jazz have had this century.
As a rebuilding team I'd take Keyonte over Cason
I think it's at least interesting. I would have went with Keyonte at the end of last year, but I think Cason has separated himself this year. I'm pretty sure I know what you are getting at, that Keyonte has a lot more offensive upside, but I think Cason has become a defensive playmaker and Keyonte continues to struggle with efficiency. I think it's more likely that Cason becomes a good enough offensive player that he would have to be guarded closely in a playoff series than Keyonte becomes a good enough defensive player that he wouldn't be targeted in a playoff series.
Two of the main stats that I think separate them offensively:
- Keyonte is 32.6% on 3.9 pull up 3's per game and Cason is 26.9% on 0.4 pull up 3's per game
- Cason is 65.0% at the rim on 180 fga, Keyonte is 54.5% on 145 fga, both numbers are about 50% assisted/50% unassisted
These are two of the players that I've seen the most of in the NBA. I think it's fair to say that Cason's situation has both enabled him to be the kind of player he has become, but also held him back a little.
YEah, it's an interesting choice. I just think Cason profiles more as a role player and I'm not sure I believe in his shooting.
The odds are in Casons favor of having the better career, but I still think Keyonte has a much higher ceiling and if I was the Bucks I would value that more.
Aren't we worried about Giannis' mid-to-long term prospects? I'm not saying I wouldn't do it... but I think it's not as simple as you guys are making it out to be. You have to be absolutely certain you will be able to build a contender QUICK. You cannot afford to waste even one of Giannis' remaining good years... which lets be honest... we have no idea how many of them remain... He's incredibly reliant on physical and athletic traits to dominate. It doesn't take much of a fall off for it to be very consequential to his game.
He will have some say. He can hold his contract over teams heads and say he wont extend.
I mean, if you can trade Flagg for him with (close to) straight up salary, then yeah, you can pretty quickly build a contender with the other pieces the Jazz have.
I still don't think it's that simple. We have maybe... 3-4 winning players on this entire roster. And one of them you probably don't want playing big minutes with Giannis. You have to turn over the entire roster and you never know how that would go. Who will be available... how will they gel?
I personally wouldn't trade Flagg for him.
I outlined this in another thread, but you can easily turn Walker around for a good haul.
The Lakers might be willing to do a Reaves/Walker deal. There's going to be a solid talent in UFA for cheap since so many teams will want to tank.
Yes, you will have to hope for some internal development from players who havent shown to be winning players, but I think it's workable.
Im sure if they pulled the trigger on a Giannis deal, they would have a plan.
underdog
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I think Giannis will stay with the Bucks. But damn, Giannis-Lauri duo would be a problem. Obviously, as stitches mentioned above, we would need to add experienced supporting pieces in a hurry.