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Jackpotting Around Podcast: Episode 27 - Trader Danny Bets on Chaos

Elizah Huge

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The main question with the Suns is how long do they dig their heels in and keep trying to compete. Good news is that with Ishbia that seems like it will be longer than they should but with their star assets they have the ability to rebuild at any moment
 
The main question with the Suns is how long do they dig their heels in and keep trying to compete. Good news is that with Ishbia that seems like it will be longer than they should but with their star assets they have the ability to rebuild at any moment
They don’t own a single one of their own picks until 2032. Makes it hard to just tear it down. They will likely try to compete for as long as they possibly can.
 
The main question with the Suns is how long do they dig their heels in and keep trying to compete. Good news is that with Ishbia that seems like it will be longer than they should but with their star assets they have the ability to rebuild at any moment
I think he is just dumb enough to wait until KD/Jimmy? don't have great value and Book is on the decline. Like we want them to feel okay for at least a year and a half and then the rebound could get tenuous. If they decide to pivot and move KD/Book this summer they could still get a haul.
 
They don’t own a single one of their own picks until 2032. Makes it hard to just tear it down. They will likely try to compete for as long as they possibly can.
But dont the Rockets own those? They seem like a prime candidate to want KD or Booker, giving them back their draft picks and allowing them to rebuild.
 
It's not even about competing. With about a sixth or a fifth of a league tanking any given year, and most of the rest putting in half-hearted effort during the regular season, it's not that hard to put together a team to win 30-35 games. We've seen that right here in SLC the last couple of seasons. The Suns don't need Jimmy or Devin or Kevin to win 30 games. They can do that if anybody.

Let's face it people, this recent trend of teams trading stars for zillion FRPs is fool's gold. We will never see a team owing their FRP go 10-72. Phoenix will go all out in 2031, if for no other reason but to spite us.
 
It's not even about competing. With about a sixth or a fifth of a league tanking any given year, and most of the rest putting in half-hearted effort during the regular season, it's not that hard to put together a team to win 30-35 games. We've seen that right here in SLC the last couple of seasons. The Suns don't need Jimmy or Devin or Kevin to win 30 games. They can do that if anybody.

Let's face it people, this recent trend of teams trading stars for zillion FRPs is fool's gold. We will never see a team owing their FRP go 10-72. Phoenix will go all out in 2031, if for no other reason but to spite us.
Except that the Celtics’ foundation is built on the Nets picks they got in the KG/Pierce trade, but go off, king.
 
And the Thunder are based off the king's ransoms they got for Russ/CP3/George.
And that having these hoards of picks are what enables both teams to be juggernauts without putting three mortgages on their proverbial house.

Also, if a genuinely awful team who genuinely tries to win successfully hovers on the margins of the play-in or out altogether (the aforementioned 35 win team), the newer more-flattened odds in the lottery makes those picks a lot more valuable than in the previous less-flattened ones.
 
The NBA has changed a little bit in the past decade.
Yeah, it’s made it so those picks are juicier. Also, you were the one who was making the argument that every year 20% if the league is tanking so it’s impossible for teams trying to win to cough up bad picks.
 
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