Jackpotting Around Podcast - Episode 36: NBA Mock Draft

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Don't think you need a legit stretch 5 for CMB to work. And the Jazz have 3 players who are some combo of tall/long/shooters with Flip/Lauri/Hendricks.

And maybe he learns to shoot and you can play him with Walker. Or maybe you can just play him with Walker due to the many teams playing two big lineups in the playoffs.
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Hey, can you list which of those playoff teams have two bigs that can't shoot at all.

It's like the Rockets... Who immediately flamed out.

And that's despite the skill levels of Sengun and Amen being 10 billion times higher than CMB and Kessler (Kessler can't even shoot free throws...)

Chet and KAT have nothing in common with CMB at all. CMB has no future in the NBA outside of a bench big unless he learns how to shoot.

The fit with Kessler is probably irrelevant though as Kessler will probably be traded by the time the Jazz make the postseason again in 5-6 years.

Having a big man who can shoot well enough to play PF so you can break out two bigs is super usefull. A PF who can't shoot and isn't big enough to play center is not at all useful.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Hey, can you list which of those playoff teams have two bigs that can't shoot at all.

It's like the Rockets... Who immediately flamed out.

And that's despite the skill levels of Sengun and Amen being 10 billion times higher than CMB and Kessler (Kessler can't even shoot free throws...)

Chet and KAT have nothing in common with CMB at all. CMB has no future in the NBA outside of a bench big unless he learns how to shoot.

The fit with Kessler is probably irrelevant though as Kessler will probably be traded by the time the Jazz make the postseason again in 5-6 years.

Having a big man who can shoot well enough to play PF so you can break out two bigs is super usefull. A PF who can't shoot and isn't big enough to play center is not at all useful.

I'm sorry man. If your draft process relies on projecting every prospect to be exactly what they currently are I can't really convince you of anything.

CMB is skilled outside of shooting and his shooting indicators did improve despite having a bigger load this season.

 

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I'm sorry man. If your draft process relies on projecting every prospect to be exactly what they currently are I can't really convince you of anything.

CMB is skilled outside of shooting and his shooting indicators did improve despite having a bigger load this season.

I guess it boils down to... Do you think he can be somewhere on the Draymond spectrum in the NBA? Seems like those are his ideal roles both on offense and on defense, right? Realistically, I mean.

 

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I guess it boils down to... Do you think he can be somewhere on the Draymond spectrum in the NBA? Seems like those are his ideal roles both on offense and on defense, right? Realistically, I mean.

I mean, Paul Millsap also existed.

 

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I mean, Paul Millsap also existed.

Millsap was never expected to be a high level NBA player and grew up in an era where PFs shooting was nice but not necessary.

CMB was a projected top 20 pick who went back to school with every NBA scout telling him "you must shoot threes at a high level to make the NBA" and he made like 10 the whole season.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Millsap was never expected to be a high level NBA player and grew up in an era where PFs shooting was nice but not necessary.

CMB was a projected top 20 pick who went back to school with every NBA scout telling him "you must shoot threes at a high level to make the NBA" and he made like 10 the whole season.

And?

Plus no one told CMB he had to make 3s to make the NBA. If that was true he wouldn't be in the first round on any mock/big board, but he's a first on all of them. So the BS you are making up is wrong.

I'm sure they told him they want to see him improve those things and he did. He shot more 3s and FTs and improved on them despite having less help this year than last.

 

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I mean, Paul Millsap also existed.

I have no idea how we can project his shooting to anywhere close to that level. To me he looks closer to Andre Roberson shooting wise than to Millsap. In fact I would consider him reaching Millsap type of shooting somewhere in his top 5 percent of outcomes.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I have no idea how we can project his shooting to anywhere close to that level. To me he looks closer to Andre Roberson shooting wise than to Millsap. In fact I would consider him reaching Millsap type of shooting somewhere in his top 5 percent of outcomes.

Brother pls, he can shoot middies and FTs
He's not Roberson.

 

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Brother pls, he can shoot middies and FTs
He's not Roberson.

Good point on the FTs... And maybe that's a better indicator than his 3p% and attempts... But the attempts really bug me. I think it shows more than ability(or lack thereof)... It shows lack of confidence in his shot... both by himself and by his coaches.

 

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Good point on the FTs... And maybe that's a better indicator than his 3p% and attempts... But the attempts really bug me. I think it shows more than ability(or lack thereof)... It shows lack of confidence in his shot... both by himself and by his coaches.

Not being that guy... but have you watched him play? I went and did the Cashiggy videos and the attempts make sense to me. His strength is driving in kind of like Randle and his team needed that. So to me the attempts make sense as he can just dribble into his strength. Based on the combine I am not hopeful for him as a shooter.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Good point on the FTs... And maybe that's a better indicator than his 3p% and attempts... But the attempts really bug me. I think it shows more than ability(or lack thereof)... It shows lack of confidence in his shot... both by himself and by his coaches.

I think it shows he played on a terrible team that needed him to do his job and not just treat the season as a 3pt shooting development season.

 

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Not being that guy... but have you watched him play? I went and did the Cashiggy videos and the attempts make sense to me. His strength is driving in kind of like Randle and his team needed that. So to me the attempts make sense as he can just dribble into his strength. Based on the combine I am not hopeful for him as a shooter.

Haven't watched him extensively, no. I think I've seen one full game and highlights mainly. I don't think there is a world where a competent shooter shoots 1 attempt in 30 mins of play in 2025, pretty much no matter what his "role" is and what other strengths he has. I think that number is meaningful. The question is how meaningful and how far can we extrapolate from it?