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Game Thread Jan 13, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Magic

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HeatCheck said:
Pure PG's like Conley and CP3 are almost becoming extinct.

Obviously Kessler is the guy moving forward but having KO in the lineup earlier in the season was nice for ball movement.

I think if they can select a playmaking wing/connector like Amen or a ball mover like Black in the next draft that could solve alot of issues too.
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At this rate we have to start figuring out where Abaji fits with our future as well. We went from not having any picks in 2022 to grabbing two studs. Not sure we would have done better if we made the picks.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Markkanen - 28 points and 12 rebounds

Clarkson - 23 points and 12 rebounds

Sexton - 18 points (7/12), 3 rebounds, 3 assists

Kessler - 13 points, 9 rebounds, 7 blocks, 2 steals

Vanderbilt - 7 points and 9 rebounds (21 mins)

Ochai was a team high +23 and Sexton was second with +17. Ochai didn’t put up any crazy stats but outside of Kessler he is the second best defender on the team. Good things happen when he is in the game.
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Big fan of Ochais game tonight an be lately in general. Dude is non stop hustle. He should be a real solid player once he figures some more things out (like any rookie).
 
framer said:
Need him for Philly tomorrow.
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Need him? Not really.

He's been bad ever since his injury. I know we have zero point guards on this roster if/when Conley sits, but that's just something we have to deal with this season. Conley can't defend the point of attack any more and that's killing us whenever he's in the game.
 
Thoughts:

- It's hilarious that Lauri is suddenly getting a star whistle. I love the NBA. I promise you he wouldn't have gone to the line on half of those plays last season, as some were really borderline fouls. Not complaining though. A point is a point. He's getting the benefit of the doubt now, and he's earned it.

- Other than that, tough game for LM. Our spacing absolutely sucked so Lauri was met with a wall of meat every time he did one of his curls. The Magic were even able to direct him away from the basket when he received the ball, and in those situations I'd like Hardy to design hi-lo actions where Lauri could do a drop pass to a center right under the basket, with the attention of the interior defense at the FT line area. Now we just kind of stood around and he was forced to pass it back out. It shouldn't be that easy to take away the curl. But as I said... bad spacing is the main culprit.

- I love Kessler.

- I've been squinting hard and trying to like NAW at the PG position because we have so few options there, but I just can't. He's a terrible ballhandler at that spot. I never feel like the rock is safe with him. He's also the type of guy who will swish three rainbow perimeter shots in a row and airball the next three. You never know what you're going to get. I still don't really know what NAW is as a player - he's an awkward tweener in so many ways. Not sure he has any trade value but I can't see him as a future rotation player either.

- I know Ochai had nice +/- numbers and he definitely hustled, but man... he disappears completely out there. There were times I was shocked to realize he was on the court. Sure we're not passing him the ball at all, but still. He also plays very small for someone who's an extremely athletic 6'5'' with a big wingspan. He needs to become much more effective on the "D" part of 3&D to really stick in this league.

- Sexton. That dude is all heart. Sure his shot selection was somewhat questionable at times, but IMO we absolutely need this guy off the bench. Trading him would be a terrible decision. This would have been a loss without Collin.
 
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framer said:
Gobert's aura was a lot better. Defending the paint was easier because teams gave up. Fools are still out there challenging Kessler and sometimes they get through, get him in foul trouble, or he just gets worn.

Gobert was/is an elite perimeter defender as well (I haven't watched him this year.)
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Here is the thing though. You WANT the opponent to challenge you best defender rather than your worst ones imo. So goberts aura was better but maybe thats a bad thing. Instead of going against gobert (a bad idea and bad shot to take) they would say nope and take a smarter, better, shot.

I dont know. You make a good point about goberts aura.


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framer said:
Listening to Locke today he talked about how Hardy said that NBA bodies were tough of Kessler as he just wasn't solid enough for the star centers, who would just push him under the basket and bully him. It makes sense that they tried to hide him from those matchups, at least for the first few months. He also talked about how Abaji wasn't yet ready for the speed and athleticism of the league. How he would stop an initial move on defense then straighten up. You could do that in college but in the NBA, people are just setting you up and then they put you on skates. Boone pointed out that it was the same issue that plagued Alec Burks. I don't he never really unlearned it. I suspect that "unlearning" that has been a primary focus before turning him out there to be barbequed.
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Ya i often see people be critical of the young guys.
As if clarkson and KO dont have poor/bad habits/tendencies. As if conley isnt a horrendous defender.


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Is Wendell Carter Jr good? He's looked pretty good whenever I've watched him. Why does he pull up his glasses on free throws?

Both offenses were pretty rough. I'm not going
to give any credit to the defenses either. A lot of unforced turnovers and not a lot of ball movement.

Kessler was great, Sexton with some nice plays. Overall not a great performance for us over such a bad team.
 
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