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....so when did he become homosexual? Obviously, he started out heterosexual. So was it his association with homosexuals? There are those who try to change their sexual role in life from one to the other. However, the Bible does not set out any alternative life-styles approved by God.

Most homosexuals are born that way, but there are others in that gray line, who are influenced for various reasons, including frustrating relations with the opposite sex or an understanding friend of the same sex who is gay / a lesbian.

What bothers me about some gays is that they try to force themselves on straight people despite that they know the person is straight -- that is, they try to influence people (often much younger) whom they know are vulnerable and whom they think they can intimidate. Like Catholic priests, for instance.
 
Most homosexuals are born that way......

....sorry, but can't buy into your faulty reasoning. The Bible says God created humans "male and female"....homosexual practices as well as homosexuals themselves have "learned" that activity. Just as a "thief" is not "born" a thief but becomes a thief from his associations and perhaps reading material.
 
The bible also says to kill children that curse at their parents, kill nonbelievers, kill people who are not virgins and get married, and to kill people that work on Sundays. Get on it, the bible says so!

Using the bible as defense against gay people is stupid, because you pick and choose the 40% that you want to follow, and the 60% that you choose to ignore because it is outdated.
 
....so when did he become homosexual? Obviously, he started out heterosexual. So was it his association with homosexuals? There are those who try to change their sexual role in life from one to the other. However, the Bible does not set out any alternative life-styles approved by God.

You seem to be assuming that straight people can never have gay sex and still be straight, and gay people can't have straight sex and still be gay. But that's a bad assumption on your part. Heterosexuality and homosexuality are orientations, not practices/activities.

For instance, we all know about rape in prison. But guys who rape other guys in prison typically aren't gay. The sex is about dominance and power. So there's an easy example of straight guys having gay sex. Doesn't mean they're actually homosexual.

And can you really not imagine that a gay person would try to deny who they are, fool themselves, etc, and try to make straight sex work? You can be a gay guy and have sex with women, not wanting to admit to yourself that you're actually into guys.
 
....so when did he become homosexual? Obviously, he started out heterosexual.

He was always homosexual.

You have confused behavior and orientation. It's common, particularly for deeply Christian/Muslim/Jewish/etc. individuals, to try to lead a straight lifestyle even though they are gay.
 
The bible also says to kill children that curse at their parents,

If an occasion arose where a son became absolutely rebellious and incorrigible after repeated warnings and the necessary discipline, a still sterner measure was taken. The son was brought before the older men of the city, and after testimony from the parents that he was an irreformable offender, the delinquent suffered capital punishment by stoning. Such arrangement evidently had reference to a son beyond the age of what is usually considered a young child, for this one the Scriptures describe as “a glutton and a drunkard.” (De 21:18-21) One striking his father or mother, or calling down evil upon his parents, was put to death. The reason for such strong measures was that the nation might clear away what was bad from their midst and so that “all Israel [would] hear and indeed become afraid.” Therefore, any tendency in the nation toward juvenile delinquency or disrespect of parental authority would be greatly retarded by the punishment inflicted upon such offenders.—Ex 21:15,*17; Mt 15:4; Mr 7:10.

kill nonbelievers....

On the surface, God’s exterminating the Canaanites might seem inconsistent with his love. (1*John 4:8) However, that love becomes quite apparent when we take a closer look. God knew long beforehand that Canaan’s inhabitants were headed in the wrong direction. Yet, instead of immediately wiping them out, he patiently allowed 400 years to pass until their error had “come to completion.”—Genesis 15:16. When the sin of the Canaanites reached the point where all hope of improvement was gone, God brought their end. Even so, he did not blindly execute all Canaanites. Why? Because not all were beyond reform. Those willing to change, such as Rahab and the Gibeonites, were shown mercy.—Joshua 9:3-11, 16-27; Hebrews 11:31.


kill people who are not virgins and get married.....

According to the Law, a man who seduced an unengaged virgin had to give her father 50 silver shekels ($110), was to marry her (if her father permitted), and was not allowed to divorce her “all his days.” (Ex 22:16,*17; De 22:28,*29) But an engaged virgin, being viewed as already belonging to a husband, was to be stoned to death if she did not scream when sexually attacked. Her failure to scream would have denoted consent and thus would have constituted her an adulteress. (De 22:23,*24; compare Mt 1:18,*19.)


and to kill people that work on Sundays.

Shortly after the Israelites received the Ten Commandments, a man was discovered gathering wood on the Sabbath. This was strictly forbidden in the Law. (Numbers 15:32-34; Deuteronomy 5:12-15) How would you have judged the case? Would you have excused the man, arguing that, after all, he was not working to maintain a luxurious life-style but to provide the necessities for his family? Would you have pointed out that there would be many occasions throughout the year to observe the Sabbath and that one missed opportunity, perhaps because of the man’s failure to plan ahead, could easily be forgiven?
God viewed the case more seriously. “In time,” the Bible states, “God said to Moses: ‘Without fail the man should be put to death.’” (Numbers 15:35) Why did God feel so strongly about what the man did?
The people had six days to gather wood as well as to handle their needs regarding food, clothing, and shelter. The seventh day was to be devoted to their spiritual needs. While it was not wrong to gather wood, it was wrong to use time that should have been set aside to worship God to do so. Although Christians are not under the Mosaic Law, does this incident not teach us a lesson in properly setting our priorities today?—Philippians 1:10.


Get on it, the bible says so!

Hope that answers your concerns and questions!
 
....and you know this because....you've already read his soon to be released book where he details that tid bit of information???

Because adults don't change their orientation, even the ones who undertake years of intense therapy and prayer in an attempt to do so.
 
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Is that an established fact?
Well, if you argue Collins was always gay, despite his long-term straight relationship with his GF, then I guess you also have to say Anne Heche was always straight, despite her long-term lesbian relationship. So both of those people didn't change their orientation, they were just in long-term denial for one reason or the other.
 
Well, if you argue Collins was always gay, despite his long-term straight relationship with his GF, then I guess you also have to say Anne Heche was always straight, despite her long-term lesbian relationship. So both of those people didn't change their orientation, they were just in long-term denial for one reason or the other.


Well, I figure the ultimate out is to just say those are bisexuals. They leaned one way for a while then leaned the other way.
 
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