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Jazz at Dubs Official Game Thread -- 8:30PM MT: NBATV, ROOT

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, what if Gobert had to guard a top 5 center of all time like Hayward is having to guard a top 5 SF of all time?

Gobert is great and a better talent than Hayward, but we have to recognize Hayward vs KD is not a favorable matchup and you can't place all the burden of creating your offense when that is the matchup he is in. "He doesnt deserve to be a max player then" OK, but good lucky finding anyone besides Lebron who can guard KD on one end and be the primary creator against him on the other.
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My issue with Hayward tonight was offensive not defensive....


Offensively, tonight, Hayward was....



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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, what if Gobert had to guard a top 5 center of all time like Hayward is having to guard a top 5 SF of all time?

Gobert is great and a better talent than Hayward, but we have to recognize Hayward vs KD is not a favorable matchup and you can't place all the burden of creating your offense when that is the matchup he is in. "He doesnt deserve to be a max player then" OK, but good lucky finding anyone besides Lebron who can guard KD on one end and be the primary creator against him on the other.
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It's KD tho. derozan and kawhi Leonard would still get buckets. Haywards not them.
 
22-6-4 and the narrative on Hayward is still "Not good enough to give the max" good lord JFC are ****ing insufferable sometimes.
 
LazyD said:
It's KD tho. derozan and kawhi Leonard would still get buckets. Haywards not them.
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Leonard could barely get buckets against the Rockets tonight while he turned it over 7 times in a near loss (that Ginobilli and Danny Green pulled out in the clutch, not Leonard).

Hayward put 31-7-5 on the Rockets. Have any other false narratives?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He is, you are dumb if you can't see that. I'd like to see them give Klay the ball and tell him to create against KD while the entire team sags into to help on you and your PG is Exum/Mack while your starting SG is out with diarrhea.

Hayward was still our best perimeter defender tonight too.
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Jeez... Klay is draining threes with a sliver of space while Hayward is left wide open to freely brick threes. Hayward finished with like six points or smth.
 
ONE LOVE said:
My issue with Hayward tonight was offensive not defensive....


Offensively, tonight, Hayward was....



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Realistically what could Hayward do tonight? He could have hit his open 3's, but he had no rhythm on those shots. His only easy look all night as an alley-oop. Everything else was 1 on 1 or and out of rhythm catch and shoot over KD's length. Yes he needs to play better, but I don't come away from this game thinking he was the problem. The issue was bigger than him and more a team thing and who we are missing rather than how any individual played.
 
LazyD said:
Jeez... Klay is draining threes with a sliver of space while Hayward is left wide open to freely brick threes. Hayward finished with like six points or smth.
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He was 1/3 from the 3pt line....

Like I said, you didnt watch the game obv. Or most of the Jazz games this season it seems.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Realistically what could Hayward do tonight? He could have hit his open 3's, but he had no rhythm on those shots. His only easy look all night as an alley-oop. Everything else was 1 on 1 or and out of rhythm catch and shoot over KD's length. Yes he needs to play better, but I don't come away from this game thinking he was the problem. The issue was bigger than him and more a team thing and who we are missing rather than how any individual played.
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He's our 'best' player, he needs to learn how to score on iso if there's nothing going. Lillard, Cousins, etc. They can do that.


Also did you see that 'pass' he made to the 5th row of the stand?



If we're to take the next step, our 'best' player needs to take the same leap.
 
ONE LOVE said:
He's our 'best' player, he needs to learn how to score on iso if there's nothing going. Also did you see that 'pass' he made to the 5th row of the stand?



If we're to take the next step, our 'best' player needs to take the same leap.
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Hayward has unquestionably taken a leap this season. He's been one of the best isolation scorers in the entire NBA.

But I guess only this game counts and we can throw the rest of the season into the trash.
 
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