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Here's a quote with a link. Go back and check the original, or where you quoted it, for that matter. It says "could", not "should".


Again, I find it interesting that you read some sort of moral impetus into a statement of possibility. What does it say about you that you read it this way?



It's a base analogy, not a base theory.

I don't recall ever saying that people whould feel guilty. I said it would be good to help others. Again, this notion of "guilty" is coming from you. Why is that?



Why do we have to wait upon respect before taking positive actions?
I love how you are doing your best to paint me as something because of guilt you are trying to put on me. You sound like a media outlet desperately searching to label somebody.

Just treat everybody with the same amount of respect. If there is a chance to actively help somebody, definitely do it. The world is going to respond more from one person's bad actions than a number of people's good actions.

Just look at this moron who started this conversation. His bad actions have defined the whole city to some who don't any better. You don't change their opinions by overcompensating through an individual action. You change their opinion by everyone treating them as equals on a daily basis through normal lives.

But you do what you want to do and I will do what I know is working for me and my family. I have lived in Alabama, Texas, Wyoming, North Carolina and now Tennessee. The best relationships are started through respect and treating everybody the same. At the end of the day, that's all anybody wants.

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Supports anything he did on any subject?

Yes, the dude is a racist scumbag. Just looking for your exact meaning.
Considering what an unprecedented disaster his presidency has been, and considering what a monster he is as a person, I’m not sure what there is to support that doesn’t mark a supporter as immediately morally or intellectually suspect.
 
Considering what an unprecedented disaster his presidency has been, and considering what a monster he is as a person, I’m not sure what there is to support that doesn’t mark a supporter as immediately morally or intellectually suspect.

Build that wall! Build that wall!

Not a racist btw. Just a person who loves America. Why can't you libtards understand!
 
I love how you are doing your best to paint me as something because of guilt you are trying to put on me. You sound like a media outlet desperately searching to label somebody.

You are reacting very defensively. You made a comment on that you thought you were doing all that was doable, and I offered a suggestion for something more, if you were interested. If not, then not. I have not labeled you, nor put any moral impetus on you. You did that to yourself.

Just treat everybody with the same amount of respect. If there is a chance to actively help somebody, definitely do it.

Which is it? Just treat them with respect, or in addition to treating them with respect, occasionally actively help?

The world is going to respond more from one person's bad actions than a number of people's good actions.

Of course. Why does this matter?
 
I'm going to do this and watch it blow up (Come at me, bros!)

But here is an undeniable truth of life:
Saying a racist epitaph DOES NOT MAKE YOU A RACIST!


But, you can't handle the truth. Sit on that and rotate.

And by the way, Donald Trump is the best president of my lifetime, and I loved Ronald Reagan. And he is absolutely going to be re-elected.
It's the economy, stupid!
 
I'm going to do this and watch it blow up (Come at me, bros!)

But here is an undeniable truth of life:
Saying a racist epitaph DOES NOT MAKE YOU A RACIST!


But, you can't handle the truth. Sit on that and rotate.

And by the way, Donald Trump is the best president of my lifetime, and I loved Ronald Reagan. And he is absolutely going to be re-elected.
It's the economy, stupid!

It's racism and you're obviously a racist.
 
I'm going to do this and watch it blow up (Come at me, bros!)

But here is an undeniable truth of life:
Saying a racist epitaph DOES NOT MAKE YOU A RACIST!

You are correct. Saying a racist epitaph makes you a bigot, rude, and small, but it does not make you a racist. It's the diminishing of other people based on skin color, the assumption that people with certain skin colors are better at certain jobs, the notion that people with darker skin lack power because they lack the will to get power that makes you racist.

However, the two often seem to go together. Perhaps that is purely a coincedance?

But, you can't handle the truth. Sit on that and rotate.

I'm fine with truth. I like bringing lost and lots of it.

And by the way, Donald Trump is the best president of my lifetime, and I loved Ronald Reagan. And he is absolutely going to be re-elected.

I have bad news for you. Ronald Reagan already served the maximal two terms, and he is dead. So, Reagan will not re-elected. Sorry.

It's the economy, stupid!

You mean, the economy that's been slowing down since late 2017?
 
Yes, and he could have ended that with positive action and remorse, instead of getting defensive.
He absolutely could have. He screwed up at that point. But you are straw-manning this OB. My point was that any misdeed will be used to tear one apart, and this was a great example as the backlash was immediate and final. I think his reaction was more a poor attempt at damage control than justification. In the current social climate there has been little evidence of anything that works too placate the mob. It sounded to me like he was scrambling trying to find a way to get out from under the lens (and from what I read and was reported on NPR there was doubt that it was actually him in the original picture, even though it still sounded like an excuse, but even then he did admit to using black face anyway, just not in the picture. How is that a dodge?).

So taking the straw man at face value, can you give me any examples of anyone who was let "off the hook" though sincere apology? I have seen a handful apologize and it does no good. The mob wants blood.
 
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