Jazz Bucks Trade, Would You Do It?

[sgjazzfan]

Pros to trading Kanter:
We give more playing time to the deserving Gobert.
We probably get a little worse which helps our draft pick.
We get something in return for a player that doesn't want to be here and doesn't seem to fit into Snyder's style.

Cons:
We might take back salary, which supposedly might gender giving out max money.
Kanter might develope into something because he's 22 and has some skills.
No offers that we are willing to take for him.

This is a reason we don't trade him, not a con to trading him.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I think he was indicating that the Jazz would have to give up a helluva lot more. Not the way you read it. At least I hope for his sake that is what he meant.

Yep. That's exactly what I meant. I could live with a Middleton for Kanter swap (but I'd prefer to get a pick back if they can swing it because both are RFAs and bigs>>>wings), but I'd prefer the Jazz to try to pool assets for a blockbuster deal to get a potential All-Star.

I'd give any and all assets that the Jazz can legally give over the next 5 years that are not named Gobert, Hayward, Favors or Exum. Pretty sure tgat Burks has to prove he's healthy before anyone else takes on his contract, so that's Kanter's Bird rights, Burke, Hood and/or any combination of draft picks to pull it off. That's the kind of deal I was hoping they'd cut next year, but with the cap going up and Kanter's unknown contract status. . . I think now might be the time to be buyers and cut a deal. Giannis is on that list. I'd offer a package comparable to what the Lakers have up for Howard - and after the TV contract kicks in. . . draft picks will be much more valuable assets than they are right now.

Totally forgot about Parker, but I'd be down with that too. Jazz need another guy to add to the new and improved Core4.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The Jazz would pass on a trade this bad, would give Enes the qualifying offer, would consider matching him in FA, and would then trade him next year for a deal no worse than this one.

 

[kabenac]

The Jazz would pass on a trade this bad, would give Enes the qualifying offer, would consider matching him in FA, and would then trade him next year for a deal no worse than this one.

That is an interesting point. As long as the offer isn't crazy it could happen. Or we could demand something from the team Kanter signs an offer with so we don't match their offer.

 

[gregbroncs]

That is an interesting point. As long as the offer isn't crazy it could happen. Or we could demand something from the team Kanter signs an offer with so we don't match their offer.

You can't demand something after the offer is signed. You can sign and trade him but if he signs an offer it's either match or don't. No trading with the team that signed him to the offer sheet.

 

[Coach Ellis]

You can't demand something after the offer is signed. You can sign and trade him but if he signs an offer it's either match or don't. No trading with the team that signed him to the offer sheet.

That's true, but if you match the offer, then you retain his Bird rights. And that should have value if he continues to develop, stays healthy and stops being the black hole that he has been. Playing with Rudy improves his value - plain and simple. A full year off the bench and playing with Gobert and I'll be surprised if his value is still as low as some feel it is right now.

 

[kabenac]

You can't demand something after the offer is signed. You can sign and trade him but if he signs an offer it's either match or don't. No trading with the team that signed him to the offer sheet.

Argh. I guess a sign and trade would be the way to go. I assume on some deals like this there's some talk between the GMs.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Argh. I guess a sign and trade would be the way to go. I assume on some deals like this there's some talk between the GMs.

Sign and trade only has value if he doesn't accepth the QO AND if the team he wants to go to is over the cap. Even then, what you're getting back is peanuts. You either deal him now or you keep him and hope he turns a corner to trade him two years from tonight.

 

[kabenac]

Sign and trade only has value if he doesn't accepth the QO AND if the team he wants to go to is over the cap. Even then, what you're getting back is peanuts. You either deal him now or you keep him and hope he turns a corner to trade him two years from tonight.

I am all for trading him but even if we keep him and match him it's not a terrible thing as teams who have a PF injury next season or the season after will come knocking.

 

[Doublea]

I am all for trading him but even if we keep him and match him it's not a terrible thing as teams who have a PF injury next season or the season after will come knocking.

I just don't think Kanter fits with this team.