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Jazz front runner for Conley

Dog. If all those contracts expire (including Conley’s) in two years and you have Mitchell yet to sign his big deal, the Jazz would have an absolute ******** of cap and could come on the heels of a terrific season in addition to being able to pay Gobert substantially more than anyone else (but not necessarily on the hook to).

We should be looking forward to two years from now, not dreading it.
You said it yourself, Ingles could fall off at any time. So is Conley. Next year there is more certainty on them performing for us. sure. but what if both him and Ingles are out of the pictures by 2021 season(both will be 34)? "this team will definitely feel it".

if we get Conley, the goal is definitely more geared towards this next season. not so much on the season after.
 
Dog. If all those contracts expire (including Conley’s) in two years and you have Mitchell yet to sign his big deal, the Jazz would have an absolute ******** of cap and could come on the heels of a terrific season in addition to being able to pay Gobert substantially more than anyone else (but not necessarily on the hook to).

We should be looking forward to two years from now, not dreading it.
umm...cap holds. So you have Gobert on a max or super max and a big cap hold for Mitchell. Then you have the rest of your cap and just the room exception for 11 more guys. You can fit another max player and then pretty much rookies and min salary vets after those three. Or two max, and two good players at $17m-$20m. Its what the Lakers are looking at right now after trading for AD. They have something like $26m, correct? That's if AD takes his trade kicker.

Or you re-sign Conley and another vet to stay over the cap and have the MLE.

Being under the cap actually sucks.
 
K, well you can measure that by PER and I’ll measure it by a player that helps you win the most games.
By pretty much every stat out there standard and advanced, like WS... and by the eye test. Ingles had a bad year and Favors had a big year. But I dont think you can look at him fairly. You just want him gone because you feel he was the problem with our team.
 
You said it yourself, Ingles could fall off at any time. So is Conley. Next year there is more certainty on them performing for us. sure. but what if both him and Ingles are out of the pictures by 2021 season(both will be 34)? "this team will definitely feel it".

if we get Conley, the goal is definitely more geared towards this next season. not so much on the season after.
1. And what’s wrong with trying to win a championship?
2. Their deals expire... you get other players or re-sign them for less.
 
That is true but he can provide other things Ingles cant do. Like better defense now and athleticism, he is also much better in the open court.

His playmaking wont be needed as much when we pick up a good PG.

sure, not as much but it'll still be super valuable.
 
By pretty much every stat out there standard and advanced, like WS... and by the eye test. Ingles had a bad year and Favors had a big year. But I dont think you can look at him fairly. You just want him gone because you feel he was the problem with our team.
He is a problem for our team. If he had perimeter skills he’d be amazing. Or if he came cheap and played exclusively backup 5 that would be amazing.

There is an immense cost to the poor fit and it’s anchoring this team to mediocrity.

The Jazz’s point differential for the past two years is substantially better when Gobert plays with stretchy 4s that are fringe NBA players.
 
sure, not as much but it'll still be super valuable.
Royce is also improving and Ingles seems to be falling off. He will be 32 next year. Maybe Ingles bounces back but he looked awful in the playoffs. 6 ppg on 32% shooting. I hope he gets back to 17/18 form but I am not sure that will happen.
 
1. And what’s wrong with trying to win a championship?
2. Their deals expire... you get other players or re-sign them for less.
we aren't winning that championship next season with Conley/Gobert/Mitchell I can tell you that much. there'd still be a chance for the conference final or maybe the finals depends on other Western team's off season acquisitions(lot of big IFs need to occur in our favors). but we ain't beating the Raptors.
 
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