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Handlogten's Heros said:
Then you compare what you described above with the fact we have 9 nba legit rotation players… like every team in the league would play… not including guys that could be good young players… Lauri and Collin are already like a few steps further along than green sengun and likely to take a step forward. I just think it’s obvious we are a quite a bit better than Houston and San Antonio… OKC it depends on how they manage SGA and Dort. 4-5 games could be the difference between 3rd and 7th… it’s a pretty big pivot point if we don’t lose enough.
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Oh yeah, I dont think we are worse than Houston, but I think Houston could be more competitive than you were alluding to.
 
Maybe, we're better on the paper. The final standings will depands on who wins more games with quality teams like POR, PHX etc. HOU OKC have one year of losing experience more than UTH. They are few years ahead of us with rebuilding. So we should be lower.
SAS is the only team with better chance to be last in the standings, even Pop said that they wont win this year.
 
Take it for what its worth... Locke mentioned the over/under being 24.5... said the team he watched practice yesterday will be well over that. He oscillates between being a hype man and limiting expectations... so who knows.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Take it for what its worth... Locke mentioned the over/under being 24.5... said the team he watched practice yesterday will be well over that. He oscillates between being a hype man and limiting expectations... so who knows.
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I'm personally having a hard time predicting our win total. I don't think the front office wants to win games, but I also don't think they will interfere too much with Hardy's rotations or who he chooses to play. As is, Hardy should be able to put together almost 48 minutes of NBA quality players. Our defense will be bad, which should guarantee a sub 30 win team, but we have some legit offensive weapons. Our top end talent isn't great, but we have more depth than the other bad teams.

I think the front office will trade away our vet players by the trade deadline which should help, but there is also the possibility of players taking a step forward, specifically Sexton and Lauri, which could add more wins than expected.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I'm personally having a hard time predicting our win total. I don't think the front office wants to win games, but I also don't think they will interfere too much with Hardy's rotations or who he chooses to play. As is, Hardy should be able to put together almost 48 minutes of NBA quality players. Our defense will be bad, which should guarantee a sub 30 win team, but we have some legit offensive weapons. Our top end talent isn't great, but we have more depth than the other bad teams.

I think the front office will trade away our vet players by the trade deadline which should help, but there is also the possibility of players taking a step forward, specifically Sexton and Lauri, which could add more wins than expected.
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Pelton did his projection and had us at 34.9 wins... the 6th lowest total. I think that is high but I think 30 wins without FO interference is the right number. Injuries always can drive that down... but with relative health that is where I'd guess we land. With FO interference (trading Conley/JC... telling Hardy to give the ball to THT and let him cook) I think we are in the 25-27 win range.

It would be a real nut punch to win 29 games instead of 25 for "culture" and end up with the 7th or 8th pick instead of top 4.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Non-Jazz Media Day Thing:

Supposedly Eric Paschall considered quitting basketball because no one was calling to sign him until the Wolves offered him the 2-way. Donovan motivated him not to give up.
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Wild... would seem like he could get some decent money overseas.
 
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