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It's possible, but they would have to know know that, and I don't get the feeling that's Ryan Smith's approach. As has been reported, a big reason Smith brought in Wade was because he wants Donovan here for the long term, I think Wade wants Donovan here long term. I just don't think they've completely given in on that.
Then you're right. This would be the time to pivot, which is what makes the most sense to me; Let Ingles age out, get what you can for Conley and Bojan, and consider cashing in on Gobert if there's a deal out there that makes sense.

Then again, if the Jazz are totally unable to trade Gobert until after October and the Jazz get Conley back, then such a pivot might as well wait a minute.
 
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I think Conley is coming back. I would love getting Batum and drafting a wing at 30 is ideal. That is easily the most realistic best case scenario for this off-season.
 
Which article? Thanks.
It’s kind of a tough article to read... especially for those of us that see the obvious mistakes... state the mistakes they are making and then get called armchair GMs by the “lolz guis”.

They didn’t push for Batum. Something they regret. Pretty damn obvious we needed a wing... pretty damn obvious he would have been a good candidate if motivated... we also had the BAE which is not much more than the minimum but we had it available... now we aren’t sure of the Taxpayer MLE is enough (it likely is not enough as LA likely rolls it out to retain him). Tony says the front office shouldn’t be blamed for not pursuing him... I guess we are to blame? Maybe Obama? No reason was stated.

So the DL “is a lazy *** who is not aggressive or proactive” crowd gets a point.

Then he talks about how we need a point guard this season to help with wear and tear on Mike and Joe. Says they “unwittingly” burned Joe out in March and April playing him so many minutes at point guard. It’s crazy that the coaching staff and front office did this “unwittingly” when this board full of degenerates, morons, and mouf breathers very “wittingly” said this was a problem.

It really just sucks that we had a lot of the big stuff in place... we needed to do a few more obvious things and not make obvious mistakes and our season could have been extended. No idea if it means a title but we didn’t give ourselves the best shot we could and it wasn’t close. I think this is like the third or fourth time in the DL era that they didn’t fill obvious holes/needs and then regret it and the media is like “can’t blame them... how could they have known these obvious things would obviously happen... ain’t their fault”.
 
Then you're right. This would be the time to pivot, which is what makes the most sense to me; Let Ingles age out, get what you can for Ingles and Bojan, and consider cashing in on Gobert if there's a deal out there that makes sense.

Then again, if the Jazz are totally unable to trade Gobert until after October and the Jazz get Conley back, then such a pivot might as well wait a minute.
From what Tony said on radio the past few weeks, they're probably going to give it one last go with what the roster generally looks like. Then next offseason if they lose in round 1 or 2, there's going to be a massive overhaul, likely trying to pivot to try and keep Donovan. I'm just not sure there's enough time then. Then you have basically 1 and a half seasons to make that pivot before Donovan is likely up for a super-max. I think if they flame out in round 1 or 2 next season, Rudy is for sure on the trade block. Another reason I don't think they're building as if he's for sure leaving is, they are currently considering people for the front office such as a CAA employee for a front office role and whatnot. A lot of the hires coming will be made with Donovan in mind by all reports, so it doesn't feel like they've subsided to just lose him, but they really need to start building a team that can compete now and in a few years and developing our young talent, including guys like Hughes during the season even if Quin isn't totally comfortable with it.
 
And most people are incredibly skeptical of the Jazz’s contender status for good reason.

If the Jazz stay on the track they are on, the Jazz will probably miss the playoffs in Donovan’s contract year and you can guarantee he’s gone then.
I am operating under the assumption we get two more good Donovan seasons and then when he is up for extension he balks... and we end up trading him.
 
I've really been hoping we could nab Batum. I wonder if our taxpayer MLE is enough to get him or if he's going to get offered more than that from another team? I'm sure it helps that him and Rudy are friends.
I think the Clips offer him the same amount and he stays. Unless he hates them for some reason... it seems like he was happy there cuz he played his *** off.
 
I think Conley is coming back. I would love getting Batum and drafting a wing at 30 is ideal. That is easily the most realistic best case scenario for this off-season.
We always make the change we need to... just a season or two too late... so this would make sense.
 
I am operating under the assumption we get two more good Donovan seasons and then when he is up for extension he balks... and we end up trading him.
It kind of sucks but is this the general feeling of most at this point? I'm not sure this is the front office or ownerships approach, I really do think they'd like him here much longer than that, but the conversation of what to do with the roster changes a lot if the feeling is he's leaving in 2 years regardless.
 
From what Tony said on radio the past few weeks, they're probably going to give it one last go with what the roster generally looks like. Then next offseason if they lose in round 1 or 2, there's going to be a massive overhaul, likely trying to pivot to try and keep Donovan. I'm just not sure there's enough time then. Then you have basically 1 and a half seasons to make that pivot before Donovan is likely up for a super-max. I think if they flame out in round 1 or 2 next season, Rudy is for sure on the trade block. Another reason I don't think they're building as if he's for sure leaving is, they are currently considering people for the front office such as a CAA employee for a front office role and whatnot. A lot of the hires coming will be made with Donovan in mind by all reports, so it doesn't feel like they've subsided to just lose him, but they really need to start building a team that can compete now and in a few years and developing our young talent, including guys like Hughes during the season even if Quin isn't totally comfortable with hit.
Well the other problem with waiting a year is that Conley would be another year older (and likely another year of missing playoff games since it seems pretty clear his hamstring condition is degenerative) which might make his contract negative-value, Bojan would be an expiring, and again, another year to add and develop talent would be lost. I hope they understand that they're gambling the longer they wait (again, assuming they really think they have a chance at retaining Donovan).

If they basically just double-down, the next-most sensible thing is to aggressively blow up the team in 2.5 years.

I'm sorry, y'all, this year's playoffs confirmed every concern I had in dramatic fashion, I just don't see this build getting there, and I think this is just ****ing around.
 
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Then you're right. This would be the time to pivot, which is what makes the most sense to me; Let Ingles age out, get what you can for Conley and Bojan, and consider cashing in on Gobert if there's a deal out there that makes sense.

Then again, if the Jazz are totally unable to trade Gobert until after October and the Jazz get Conley back, then such a pivot might as well wait a minute.
I think Rudy ends up on the block before season ends. Not in a we need to trade him mode, but almost a Melo Deron situation with him and Simmons maybe. We see what they uncover in their effort to trade him and maybe see something that works for us. Nothing good pops up and we will wait and see what happens. If he was trade eligible I think we’d be looking.

You sign Conley, hopefully find a good use for taxpayer MLE, look to save some money on Favs or maybe JC and Bojan... see how it looks and if it looks bad you move Mike or Rudy and part of that deal is you’d be trying to cut 10M or so from the budget. I didn’t see Ryan going 60M into the tax for a 2nd round exit. Tax is determined by end of year salary so you can get a look before you decide to slash the budget.
 
IF the goal is to bring Conley back AND use our biggest exception on Batum, then my idea of Bojan for Kuzma, #22 and a future pick makes even more sense.

I don't like the idea of going into another postseason relying on such an old roster

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