Jazz Offseason Plan

[idiot]

Assuming this means Trent is likely coming back?

Not sure why you'd assume this (unless there's more context behind it than is clear). It's possible that it's what it means, I suppose, but that's a pretty all-purpose phrase/tweet. Not even sure why the Jazz would have made a decision on him at this point.

(But I like Forrest.)

 

[NAOS]

I am too, but only if Quin will use him as a small ball 5 at times. That is where he becomes a differentiator imo... using him as a roll man opened up his passing and a bunch of stuff. I doubt Chicago lets him go.

For sure.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He was good this year yes, he was not some huge difference maker in the playoffs as one of the main guys. I think he wore down a lot by the Clippers series, but no, he’s not someone who makes or breaks whether you beat the Clippers in a series he’s just not.

I mean there are like 3 guys on the roster that are that level of player.

 

[Ujfanatic]

I wonder if these rumors suggest the Jazz are looking to make a move to facilitate the next move. Realistically, the Jazz need another real impact player. Other than lucking out in the draft/free agency, the most likely way to do that is through a trade with a rebuilding/retooling team that is willing to trade an impact player. Those teams want young players/draft picks back for their impact player, assets the Jazz do not have.

The assets the Jazz do have are veteran, 'win now' players. Those players are appealing to playoff/title contending teams, who may be willing to give up younger players/future assets for them. If the Jazz can accumulate a few more assets that would appeal to a rebuilding/retooling team, they would be much better positioned to then take a swing for an impact player.

This may mean the Jazz tread water for a season. Maybe the roster does take a step backwards for a year, but it allows Donovan to have his breakout, compete for the scoring title and MVP discussion type of season. The team wouldn't be as good but it would allow Donovan his full ascension to superstar status and then the Jazz are better positioned to add an impact player next off season. Maybe the focus here is really on 2022-23.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

All the noise from New Orleans is just so bad. I have no idea why they want to try and get Kyle Lowry with Zion and the other guys wanted Ball back. Just keep Ball and operate over the cap... to get space they need to waive Ball's cap hold making him unrestricted, same thing with Josh Hart, then you need to find a home for Bledsoe or Adams by giving up assets... all that for Kyle Lowry for a couple years?

 

[Jingled]

I'm really hoping that we'll be able to move Favors contract and then keep both Bogey and Joe. I think both guys have way more value to the team than anything we could get back for them.

 

[NAOS]

All the noise from New Orleans is just so bad. I have no idea why they want to try and get Kyle Lowry with Zion and the other guys wanted Ball back. Just keep Ball and operate over the cap... to get space they need to waive Ball's cap hold making him unrestricted, same thing with Josh Hart, then you need to find a home for Bledsoe or Adams by giving up assets... all that for Kyle Lowry for a couple years?

It’s a suped-up version of DL-style move. Bleeding assets for an aging PG. Gorgeous.

 

[Jingled]

 

[idiot]

“He loves their medical staff.”

Clearly DL is still Woj’s source here.

Yeah JZ gonna have to fight to get in Wojs good side… we will know when it changes because the focus will turn to the fact that they need to dump Favs salary because “at the time when they signed him the leadership believes he could be more than just a backup 5 and that isn’t the case”… something like that.

For what it's worth:

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It’s a suped-up version of DL-style move. Bleeding assets for an aging PG. Gorgeous.

It also seems to be doing it in the stupidest way possible. If you can get Kyle in a sign and trade for Lonzo then go for it... clearing out cap space after the moves they made last year is fireable. If I was the owner and he came in pitching this "plan" I'd likely already be looking at replacements.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I don't know how to perfectly capture my thoughts on if Ingles got traded for salary relief, but I think saying that the Jazz will be forever cursed and will deserve it might sum it up.

Let's please keep talking about Favors, Bogey, and/or Clarkson. Bless their hearts too. You just can't go out and grab a Joe Ingles somewhere, but you can find a backup center easily, a big shooter, and/or a microwave scorer.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I actually think this is likely the best way of thinking... I just don't think Joe has the trade value the other guys do but then again maybe other GMs don't understand who Joe is... I think they would be getting a super ****** version of Joe if they trade for him.