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I wonder about the end of the bench. I think the most likely scenario is we run it back with small changes and pay the luxury tax for one year.

So

Starters

Conley
Mitchell
O'Neal
Bogey
Gobert

Bench

Clarkson
Ingles
Favors

So that is our top 8.

Also under contract
Oni (partially guaranteed)
Udoka
Matt Thomas (partially guaranteed)
Hughes

So we have 12 players
Assuming we draft one player either in the 1st or 2nd round that leaves two spots

One has to be a backup point guard and one has to be wing. That could be Forrest at backup point guard again. It does look like Brantley we be finding a new team .
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's wild to me that complete cynicism is the mode of communication now on Jazzfanz among a lot of posters. People act like this team is a perpetual 8th seed with no shot at contention.
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Huh? I think there is frustration with not being able to get over the mountain to the next level... especially with the crest in sight.

We are also headed into the offseason with fresh memories of the **** ups of last summer. If we can undo some of the damage at a low cost and find some minimum gems I think the tone changes. We are headed into a 10 day stretch that will show us where our leadership is... cynicism and optimism are totally fine with me... I'm pretty guarded after last offseason. Not everyone is excited about making moves to avoid luxury tax. The degree of difficulty with this offseason is like 2x-3x what it was last year imo. I don't have a ton of faith we nail it... but maybe we get lucky.
 
Qman said:
I wonder about the end of the bench. I think the most likely scenario is we run it back with small changes and pay the luxury tax for one year.

So

Starters

Conley
Mitchell
O'Neal
Bogey
Gobert

Bench

Clarkson
Ingles
Favors

So that is our top 8.

Also under contract
Oni (partially guaranteed)
Udoka
Matt Thomas (partially guaranteed)
Hughes

So we have 12 players
Assuming we draft one player either in the 1st or 2nd round that leaves two spots

One has to be a backup point guard and one has to be wing. That could be Forrest at backup point guard again. It does look like Brantley we be finding a new team .
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I would be shocked if Favors AND Bojan will both be here next year. I think that leaves a window open for Brantley depending on what we do in trades, the draft, etc. Also could mean a closed door for Thomas, Oni, etc.

The guys I expect to stay:
Rudy
Don
Conley
Joe
Royce
Doke

The guys I think will probably stay:
Hughes
Clarkson
Two of Oni, Brantley and Thomas

One or both of these will be gone:
Favors
Bojan
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Huh? I think there is frustration with not being able to get over the mountain to the next level... especially with the crest in sight.

We are also headed into the offseason with fresh memories of the **** ups of last summer. If we can undo some of the damage at a low cost and find some minimum gems I think the tone changes. We are headed into a 10 day stretch that will show us where our leadership is... cynicism and optimism are totally fine with me... I'm pretty guarded after last offseason. Not everyone is excited about making moves to avoid luxury tax. The degree of difficulty with this offseason is like 2x-3x what it was last year imo. I don't have a ton of faith we nail it... but maybe we get lucky.
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Not to mention 2x-3x more difficult largely because of how bad they did last year.

For Christ’s sake, it was so bad that the guy that engineered the Rudy and Donovan heists got fired. We’re not just making **** up.
 
LoPo said:
I would be shocked if Favors AND Bojan will both be here next year. I think that leaves a window open for Brantley depending on what we do in trades, the draft, etc. Also could mean a closed door for Thomas, Oni, etc.

The guys I expect to stay:
Rudy
Don
Conley
Joe
Royce
Doke

The guys I think will probably stay:
Hughes
Clarkson
Two of Oni, Brantley and Thomas

One or both of these will be gone:
Favors
Bojan
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Just ****ing cut Thomas... what is the scenario where we need to play a small shooting guard with no defense next to our other small guards? Even if they just bought a late second rounder and drafted my dog and paid her 900K that would generate like 2.5M in savings... and lets be honest... everyone ****ing loves my dog... she would improve locker room morale 200%.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Not to mention 2x-3x more difficult largely because of how bad they did last year.

For Christ’s sake, it was so bad that the guy that engineered the Rudy and Donovan heists got fired. We’re not just making **** up.
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Right... that is exactly what I am implying... say you don't sign Favs or anyone with MLE. You don't start the repeater tax clock... you saved some dough to help pay for this year's spend and you don't have to sell off our paltry amount of draft capital. Maybe you even saw Udoka and he was playable... there is another asset.

What if you also had #47 still and could use it in a trade? Might not net much but maybe land a couple future second rounders to use later. Its a tiny move... shouldn't matter at all... but when you have very little to start with it makes a difference.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Just ****ing cut Thomas... what is the scenario where we need to play a small shooting guard with no defense next to our other small guards? Even if they just bought a late second rounder and drafted my dog and paid her 900K that would generate like 2.5M in savings... and lets be honest... everyone ****ing loves my dog... she would improve locker room morale 200%.
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I think Thomas gets cut, I believe Tony and Andy have both mentioned that that's what they expect.
 
oneye said:
I think Thomas gets cut, I believe Tony and Andy have both mentioned that that's what they expect.
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I would love to know who's idea that was. I'd have loved to be in the room when it was brought up... I'd have loved to see Massai's face when he got the call.
 
I'm curious where Favs ends up... Sounds like there is a 80% chance he is on the move.
 
oneye said:
One of Tony or Andy said a couple weeks ago in an interview "Since Dennis is gone, I don't see Matt Thomas being brought back" so that tells you.
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What a dick move... giving up a second for no damn reason. I blame Ryan for not taking the keys to the car from him.
 
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