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Jazz Player Rankings according to ESPN

orangello said:
I don't know how many other people just want to hear anything Jazz related but that helps my days go by. Here is what ESPN is saying right now about the #12 pick in the draft.

https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/6871159/nba-player-rankings-301-350

One interesting note is that Kenneth Faried is ranked higher than Burks. Another note is that Burks is ranked higher than Kosta Kufos.
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Mark these words. Burks will be better than Faried in every year he's in the NBA.
 
I don't know what to think about some of these but Faried's elite skills do translate very well at the next level, i was kind of pissed the Nuggets landed him
 
prodigy said:
would you say the same after watching this video:
https://www.ballislife.com/video/kennethsummermix

I think Faried is looking more athletic than people thought he was at draft time
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I think the question with Faried isn't his athleticism, it's does his lack of size and lack of anything resembling offensive polish (after 4 years of college) allow him to play a significant role and play significant minutes in the NBA.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I think the question with Faried isn't his athleticism, it's does his lack of size and lack of anything resembling offensive polish (after 4 years of college) allow him to play a significant role and play significant minutes in the NBA.
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He could take the Paul Millsap route, but Sap seems (to me) to have more of a chip on his shoulder; I dont see Faried as a future star in this league but Ill glady eat crow a few years from now if the contrary becomes the case.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I think the question with Faried isn't his athleticism, it's does his lack of size and lack of anything resembling offensive polish (after 4 years of college) allow him to play a significant role and play significant minutes in the NBA.
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This. I don't need highlight vids after watching him for about the last 5 years. I like him quite a bit, but he won't ever amount to much in the NBA, imo.
 
Not saying he's going to be a superstar but he's a defensive minded player who can be a very good rebounder.

he's got a big body, lot of muscle, and very athletic.
 
Scrolling through these rankings a couple of thoughts cross my mind.

- so glad we didn't end up with Klay Thompson. Thankfully we didn't even have a choice, but I think in the next few years GS is going to be kicking themselves (along with others).
- lol @ Morris Peterson. So many people here wanted this guy. Thankfully I wasn't one of them. He career has gone south since leaving T town.
- Hasheem Thabust
- Jordan Hamilton is a perfect fit on the Chuckettes.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Scrolling through these rankings a couple of thoughts cross my mind.

- so glad we didn't end up with Klay Thompson. Thankfully we didn't even have a choice, but I think in the next few years GS is going to be kicking themselves (along with others).
- lol @ Morris Peterson. So many people here wanted this guy. Thankfully I wasn't one of them. He career has gone south since leaving T town.
- Hasheem Thabust
- Jordan Hamilton is a perfect fit on the Chuckettes.
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And the Jazz would have had that contract for what, 5 years?

Also noticed Larry Sanders in the group. He got a lot of love from some on this board in the 2010 draft. Certainly looks like KOC and honz had the correct player pegged.
 
prodigy said:
Not saying he's going to be a superstar but he's a defensive minded player who can be a very good rebounder.

he's got a big body, lot of muscle, and very athletic.
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https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kenneth-Faried-5325/

Paul Millsap is of a similar size than Faried, but I'd say he's bigger. Faried came in at 225 pounds (for perspective, that's less than AK) and for his standing reach to be as good as it is, he does not have a big (wide) body (I say this because Faried's standing reach is significantly higher than Millsap's, yet his wingspan is significantly smaller).

None of this is to say that Faried can't play, but if he's too find a way to stay on the court for more than 20mpg, he's going to either have to rebound and defend in the NBA like a maniac, or he's going to have to have a real skill on offense.

dalamon said:
He could take the Paul Millsap route, but Sap seems (to me) to have more of a chip on his shoulder; I dont see Faried as a future star in this league but Ill glady eat crow a few years from now if the contrary becomes the case.
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He's listed Millsap as his model for his game and for good reason. Can you or anybody give me a list of players that came into the league nothing but a bruising rebounder with no polish and turn into arguably the best shooter on their team, a great passer, and the most consistent and versatile scoring threat on their team? Because I can't think of anyone else. Millsap is an anomaly. There's no absolute rule that says Faried can't learn these things either, but I believe the exception (Millsap) proves the (general) rule (players with no polish in college don't find that polish in the NBA).

I like Faried overall, but I don't know where he fits on a team that isn't dying for real rotation player down low and I can't root for him on the Nuggets.
 
Wow, Burks is ranked higher that Kufous?? Oh wow that makes me feel a lot better! Especially that Kufous was absolutely horrible!!! Thanks for relieving the tension.
 
Lakers_Slapper said:
Wow, Burks is ranked higher that Kufous?? Oh wow that makes me feel a lot better! Especially that Kufous was absolutely horrible!!! Thanks for relieving the tension.
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Be interesting to compare this ranking with a newly compiled list a couple years from now.
 
Here is an interesting side note. SI.com did a ranking 1-100 and DWill was #7 ahead of players like Kevin Durant, Pau Gasol, Amare Stoudemire, Derrick Rose and Carmelo Anthony. Overall Dwill was ranked #7. I know that there was another thread for the SI.com ranking but I just wanted to add this to it so that when ESPN is done then was can compare the two. Milsap was the highest ranked Jazz player @ 46.
 
PKM said:
Maybe I am, wanna participate?
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Sign me up. Here's my list for future comparison:

The ten top reasons that expert lists are stupid:
1) Usually they are written on a tight deadline rather than thoroughly researched.
2) Writers often make placements on their list to payback favors or to gain favors.
3) It's extremely rare for this sort of a list to identify breakout stars.
4) These types of lists almost always overrate the athletes who are hyped.
5) Many times placement on the list is motivated by gaining publicity for the list.
6) Placement on the list has no relationship to future performances.
7) It's virtually impossible to forecast the future opportunities and reactions of anybody.
8) Life is nothing if not uncertain.
9) The speed of the news cycle has an inverse relationship with the number of these types of lists that appear.
10) I like cheese.
 
As my only serious note of this post (as I dislike most all commentators, writers, *journalists*, columns, articles, etc), was this particular list intended to forecast anything, or simply rank players, as-is?

11) Most of these writers misspell names, get stats wrong, etc. That's why I prefer forums to reading, i.e., ESPN. The average passionate fan knows more about their team than most of the writers of the written-to-get-hits pieces that endlessly flow from the keyboards of the shock-journalists. No doubt, there are some good articles, nice analysis, from time to time, but it's far too rare for me to feel, in my gut, that overall, these guys actually give two ***** about ACTUAL sports ...

/endrant
 
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