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I said it before and will stand for it - Biyombo is Fes at best. What Fes loses to Biyombo on D he gains on him on O. He is 3rd string C in playoff contender. I don't mind gambling on him though.
 
I had to run as I posted a link to the Biyombo video.

The guy is clearly an athlete, and showed some good quickness. I knew that he was raw, and that his impact will be on defense, but I didn't expect his basketball skills to be that undevloped. I read about his bad hands and he showed really bad hands.

What I don't know is if a guy who is so athletic can't also learn to catch, move and shoot just a little.
 
I had to run as I posted a link to the Biyombo video.

The guy is clearly an athlete, and showed some good quickness. I knew that he was raw, and that his impact will be on defense, but I didn't expect his basketball skills to be that undevloped. I read about his bad hands and he showed really bad hands.

What I don't know is if a guy who is so athletic can't also learn to catch, move and shoot just a little.

He should be throwing a basketball against a wall for the entire lockout and getting more comfortable catching it. You are right, his hands are very bad right now.
 
NBA body. Good motor from what I've seen. He's the perfect player for a team with two draft picks in the draft. If Jazz go BPA, they may end up with Kanter and Biyombo. Wouldn't THAT be something.

If you go BPA I can see this as likely. Have to sort it all out later.
Or maybe that Washington trade comes to fruition.
 
Re: Biyombo. Weren't there a lot of people on this site that thought Whiteside was going to be the next elite defensive center? I can't lie, it would be exciting to get Biyombo at #12 (no way in hell at 3), but at the same time I wouldn't have very high expectations from him.
 
Re: Biyombo. Weren't there a lot of people on this site that thought Whiteside was going to be the next elite defensive center? I can't lie, it would be exciting to get Biyombo at #12 (no way in hell at 3), but at the same time I wouldn't have very high expectations from him.
Ummm, yes. I wasn't advocating Hassan at #9, but I thought trying to trade down (or up from our 2nd round slot) and pick him up late first/early second might be worth it. I was obviously either dead wrong, or he'll take several years to develop.
 
I could be wrong but Biyombo is extremely raw and I have doubts he can be anything but a role player in the NBA unless he dramatically improves. I think people are getting all excited because of his length but what good does it do if he can shoot, catch the ball or gets pushed around on defense. So he blocks a few shots big deal. He won't be playing in the fourth quarter if he can't shot free throws. I would pick him in the 20s but not at 12. I think he is being overhyped.

Again I could be wrong because his skills are better seen 5 on 5 than in workout drills. However it seems an NBA caliber player would have better individual skills than Biyombo has.
 
Re: Biyombo. Weren't there a lot of people on this site that thought Whiteside was going to be the next elite defensive center? I can't lie, it would be exciting to get Biyombo at #12 (no way in hell at 3), but at the same time I wouldn't have very high expectations from him.
There's always some ruckus about drafting some defensive C every year. But they are all missing critical components to the puzzle (usually weight/strength, work ethic, aggressiveness/intensity, and/or intelligence). I might be the loudest loud mouth about Biyombo, but I was never on the Whiteside train, nor was I on the Thabeet train (had he even been in the Jazz's range). I doubt I would've been on the Sene train, but I wasn't around then.
 
If we take Kanter, then also taking Biyombo would be a wasted pick unless we are planing on trading Kanter.

It would seem so but Okur can ride the pine all year and likely might anyway. That means there would be five guys (Jefferson, Millsap, Favors, Kanter, Biyombo) for the 4-5 with Millsap getting some solid burn at the 3 as well.

Let's say Millsap can play 20 minutes at the 3 and 10 at the 4, that leaves 86 minutes for the other four guys between the 4 and 5. 34 for Al, 24 for Favors, 16 for Kanter and 12 for Biyombo. I think that sounds about right and might even be asking too much for Kanter and Biyombo as very young rookies, so I see no issue with drafting both of them if they're the BPA on the Jazz Big Board.
 
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