Jazz select Grayson Allen at 21

[silesian]

Allen is a mental midget like Hood... Gets frustrated and lose control real easily. Count ourselves lucky if this guy can even survive three years of high intensity NBA basketball

Hood = Allen is the worst take ever. I'm serious. A casual observer can see that they are completely different personalities.

 

[jom2003]

For the 50th billionth time, height isn’t what you’re looking for.

Wingspan.

His wingspan is about an inch shy of league average for 2’s. So size wise, he can guard 1/2. He’ll guard the weaker of whoever Mitchell or Exum don’t take.

Height surely isn't everything we're looking for in terms of evaluating a player's defensive ability. But wingspan surely isn't either. What about lateral quickness? vertical reach?

FYI, Trey Burke, who happens to be a nightmare defender, has a 6' 5.5' wingspan. But that doesn't make him capable of guarding anyone in the league

Also did you just repeated what I said? "Allen is bout an inch shy of league average for 2's". So he holds no size advantage over guards in the league.

Allen surely has some notable strengths. Unfortunately I don't think size is one of them. Largely cuz he's only 6'3, as opposed to the reported 6'5.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Height surely isn't everything we're looking for in terms of evaluating a player's defensive ability. But wingspan surely isn't either. What about lateral quickness? vertical reach?

FYI, Trey Burke, who happens to be a nightmare defender, has a 6' 5.5' wingspan. But that doesn't make him capable of guarding anyone in the league

Also did you just repeated what I said? "Allen is bout an inch shy of league average for 2's". So he holds no size advantage over guards in the league.

Allen surely has some notable strengths. Unfortunately I don't think size is one of them. Largely cuz he's only 6'3, as opposed to the reported 6'5.

If he’s 6’3 with a 6’7 wingspan it’s no different than if he was 6’5 with a 6’7 wingspan. This isn’t difficult.

Allen does hold a size advantage over 1’s. He’ll be a fine team defender. I’m not worried about it. He’ll be a better defender than Hood, guaranteed.

 

[Eminence]

Undrafted Malik Newman needs to be worked out.

Signed by the Lakers to a 2 way.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Is it really up to him? The offense might flow in a way that forces defenses switch, no?

Switching is a scheme. We don’t have to. There are numerous ways around it, otherwise AD would post up Steph Curry every single play.

 

[jom2003]

If he’s 6’3 with a 6’7 wingspan it’s no different than if he was 6’5 with a 6’7 wingspan. This isn’t difficult.

Allen does hold a size advantage over 1’s. He’ll be a fine team defender. I’m not worried about it. He’ll be a better defender than Hood, guaranteed.

False

 

[Deleted member 848]

Woulda been lit if we traded up with Denver for a michael porter jr, I will admit. But maybe his injuries are worrying

 

[jom2003]

Hood = Allen is the worst take ever. I'm serious. A casual observer can see that they are completely different personalities.

So pointing out both players having some mental weaknesses is the same as to equating the two players?

OK

 

[silesian]

The guy can get to the rim and finish with contact as well.

Finishing at the rim is one of his reported weaknesses.

 

[silesian]

So pointing out both players having some mental weaknesses is the same as to equating the two players?

OK

Glad you backed off calling them both mental midgets.

Any analogy between the two is really really bad, unless it is to contrast and not compare.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Finishing at the rim is one of his reported weaknesses.

It depends. He doesn't have the strength to really attack big men body-wise, but he can be creative in the air. That said, there were sometimes where he was a also a bit tentative. Not like Exum when he first got in the league, but it did show. That said, some added muscle will help him. Otherwise, it's not for a lack of effort that end.

 

[Tak]

My opinion surely don't matter. Neither do yours... When I said BPA I meant "consensus". you know? by writers and scouts who are actually paid by websites to exclusively evaluate talents. ND's final mock has him at 38, tankathon at 34, ESPN at 28. So no, he's not considered by the majority to be BPA at 21.

well, except for DL i guess

There's a reason they work for websites and not for teams. Just saying.