Jazz select Isaiah Collier at pick 29

[Thee Jazz Fan]

There are only a handful of teams needing a point guard, and it just so happens that Collier fell in the point guard rankings enough (due to a combo of suspect shooting and TO), for him to slip a long way.

We got pretty lucky this year so many things fell our way (including the rise of Edey and Salaun).

Well the pg thing makes sense.

 

[NUMBERICA]

It’s not high. The average height for starting pg in the NBA is 6’2.5 which is exactly the same as Collier. So I don’t buy that explanation

What’s not high? And why would “the pg explanation make sense” but not the height thing? It’s the crux of the PG issue.

 

[Pinhead]

It’s not high. The average height for starting pg in the NBA is 6’2.5 which is exactly the same as Collier. So I don’t buy that explanation

He was listed as like 6’5” until the combine measured him at 2-3” shorter… I’m sure that didn’t help his stock any.

 

[KqWIN]

One thing I’m confused about. At the time Collier was rated the #1 recruit there were plenty of others in the top ten in the first mocks coming out of guys who also couldn’t shoot and showed to be much worse than Collier some only slipped a tiny bit but Collier hours from a top prospect to damn near the second round. That makes me think there’s some other huge on court or life wart I don’t know about, and don’t say turnovers. I don’t consider that a logical reason to slip that far.

So why such a much larger slip than most others?

It’s possible there was some injury/interview red flags. We may never know.

There was also a big priority on Wings. Once you get down to the contending teams, there’s naturally going to be a preference on wings/guys who can contribute early. There aren’t going to be as many teams later in the first round looking for project PGs. So he could have just gotten unlucky.

Can’t explain wtf MIL was thinking though.

 

[NUMBERICA]

He was listed as like 6’5” until the combine measured him at 2-3” shorter… I’m sure that didn’t help his stock any.

With shoes gets him to 6’ 4”. He’s actually not that short, but he’s not tall, and he doesn’t have a great wingspan.

My read is teams overthought all of this in the context of team-building and current (understandable) trends of desirable player types. Short guys that need a lot of work on their jumper and aren’t great defenders is certainly not en vogue.

But sure, maybe there were also personality/intangibles issues too. Still a great dice roll at 29.

 

[KqWIN]

Throughout the process I wondered about Collier vs Topic. Obviously they are not exactly the same, but in both cases you’re kinda betting on the drive+kick ability and worrying about the defense+shooting.

I wasn’t one who abandoned Topic as a prospect….but Collier is a much better value at 28 than Topic at 12 imo.