Jazz shopping Al Jefferson?

[trigg3r]

If Al is dealt then he better net us a nice return. Maybe we would get a big offer from one of the teams who misses out on Howard if he is traded. It could be the DWill situation all over again. Team misses out on their primary target(Nets and Crymello) and we secretly discuss a deal for Jefferson in this case. I am definitely not advocating we trade him. Just saying that if a deal too good to be true is offered, then we take it.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Sorry I was meant to say that we need as many PF/C as we can get with all the back-to-back-to-back's that we'll be facing..

Again, that is the only thing the Jazz have as a strength. To the point that it's a weakness (logjam).

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I think he'd have more value as an expiring contract that can play, but he's certainly available for the right price.

 

[The Midnight]

Again, that is the only thing the Jazz have as a strength. To the point that it's a weakness (logjam).

I don't think you can have too many bigs especially in the coming season where those games will be very tough for the likes of Jefferson, Millsap and Okur. Last year our bigs struggled big time: Elson, Okur, AK and Millsap being injured at one time or another. I remembered us having to sign someone on a 10 day contract just to cover.

I think the schedule this year will be even tougher on these guys' bodies and I think it'll only take either Jefferson or Millsap being injured for us to be in trouble.

 

[billyshelby]

The thread title could easily be changed to "Every single Jazz player is being shopped." I wouldn't be surprised if any player on our roster got dealt.

But for what it's worth, the tax penalties (if I understand the new CBA correctly) don't kick in until year 3. So a guy like Al, or even Sap and Harris, won't hurt a team more than the traditional 1 for 1 tax hit since they all come off the books before year 3. That definitely makes them more tradeable.

 

[NUMBERICA]

The thread title could easily be changed to "Every single Jazz player is being shopped." I wouldn't be surprised if any player on our roster got dealt.

But for what it's worth, the tax penalties (if I understand the new CBA correctly) don't kick in until year 3. So a guy like Al, or even Sap and Harris, won't hurt a team more than the traditional 1 for 1 tax hit since they all come off the books before year 3. That definitely makes them more tradeable.

Good point.

 

[sepanol]

Sorry I was meant to say that we need as many PF/C as we can get with all the back-to-back-to-back's that we'll be facing..

Numberica is right, we are already loaded with PFs, and actually there isn't only real C, even Memo is a more PF than C just like Big Al. I would be pleased to see Big Al leaving and get a back up C (not so good but not as bad as Fes)

 

[The Midnight]

Numberica is right, we are already loaded with PFs, and actually there isn't only real C, even Memo is a more PF than C just like Big Al. I would be pleased to see Big Al leaving and get a back up C (not so good but not as bad as Fes)

??? And you think somehow KOC can just swap our "PFs" for good quality C's just like that? Good quality C is arguably the hardest position to fill in the NBA. Just look at this year's crop of FA's and the likely rate:

Marc Gasol - max. deal
Chandler - close to max. deal
Nene - close to max. deal
etc, etc

You have to either over pay in FA or get lucky in the draft.

Now considering who we have:

Jefferson - OK he's not the perfect C, but he's said himself that he's a C and he's "OK" playing a C.
Kanter - He's a bit short for a C and doesn't quite have the athleticism, but he has played C before and who knows how he'll develop?
Favors - He's got the defense ability and athleticism to play C - may be he's an inch too short? I see a lot of potential though.
Okur - Played C most of his time in the NBA. Has the height but not the defense or post play to play C.

I'm not happy with all the "PFs" in the team neither, but if you think some GM will happily take on Jefferson and give us a quality C I think you must be dreaming. And if you're thinking about trading Jefferson for a back up C - then which of the "PFs" would you want starting at C?

Llooking at who we've got I think Favors has the most potential going forward. He has the ability, athleticism and reach to play C. So why don't we be patient for a while this season and see how they develop?

 

[candrew]

.Now considering who we have:

Jefferson - OK he's not the perfect C, but he's said himself that he's a C and he's "OK" playing a C.
Kanter - He's a bit short for a C and doesn't quite have the athleticism, but he has played C before and who knows how he'll develop?
Favors - He's got the defense ability and athleticism to play C - may be he's an inch too short? I see a lot of potential though.
Okur - Played C most of his time in the NBA. Has the height but not the defense or post play to play C.

I'm not happy with all the "PFs" in the team neither, but if you think some GM will happily take on Jefferson and give us a quality C I think you must be dreaming. And if you're thinking about trading Jefferson for a back up C - then which of the "PFs" would you want starting at C?

Llooking at who we've got I think Favors has the most potential going forward. He has the ability, athleticism and reach to play C. So why don't we be patient for a while this season and see how they develop?

Good post and all true. The only problem is with the condensed schedule, between the 4 of them, realistically, I think you're looking at 25-30 missed games this season.

Jefferson played all 82 last season; but I doubt we'll be this lucky again this season. Will probably missed a half dozen games with various minor injuries
Memo is coming off almost an entire year lost and is 30+. He's bound to miss some time.
Kanter has barely played any competitive ball over the last couple of years and might be in line for some extended D-League time if he struggles early or even if he doesn't.
I think Favors will play the most games out of all of them; but not necessarily the most minutes.

I'd love for them to pick up a low cost vet like Pryzbilla or Jeff Foster as Favors and Kanter develop their game; but I wouldn't hold my breath on either one of them. The reality is they'll probably pick up another Elson-like guy off the scrap heap. Definitely need another body though.

 

[margodydek]

I saw someone mention this on twitter, and I'd have to agree with them, that if the Jazz really are shopping Al, the trade that makes the most sense is Al for Iguodala. Jazz aren't going to trade Al for another big (it doesn't make sense), and whether you are for or against this trade, it does actually make sense on some levels. Both contracts are very similar with the only real difference being that Iggy's has 3 yrs left to Al's two. Philly needs a big and we need a SF, and by making this trade it also opens up time for young talent on both teams to get more time (Phili: Turner & T. Young, Jazz: Favors & Kanter). Not sure I want to say goodbye to Al, but if this is the trade, it would take me about 2 seconds to talk myself into the most athletic team in Jazz history.

 

[Brown Notes]

No, they are not.

Then again, Utah wasn't shopping Deron either.

Translation: Rumors don't mean dog **** in Utah.

 

[margodydek]

No, they are not.

Then again, Utah wasn't shopping Deron either.

Translation: Rumors don't mean dog **** in Utah.

I agree. For someone to put a lot of stock into rumors (especially when it comes to the Jazz) is moronic, but the one good purpose they serve is they help pass the time. 3 more weeks til we tip-off.