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Jazz sign Elijah Millsap aka BabySap to a three year deal.

This is what we SHOULD have done with Wesley Matthews. Instead, he was snatched up by Portland after his first season with the Jazz. I think we have just learned that when we find a nice player through scouting, injury opportunities, D-league caliber gem... that we bring a contractual condom for some protection for a couple of years.

Attaboys DL and KOC... Way to Trojan-up! I love locking up SAP #2 for 3 years.

I don't think you would have got Matthews to agree to a team option unless the number was pretty big. He was only 22 at the time, baby Sap is 27.
 
I don't think you would have got Matthews to agree to a team option unless the number was pretty big. He was only 22 at the time, baby Sap is 27.

I'm sure they could've at least got 1 option year, maybe not two. He was an undrafted training camp invite. Same as Ian Clark and they did a 1 + 1 with him.
 
I'm sure they could've at least got 1 option year, maybe not two. He was an undrafted training camp invite. Same as Ian Clark and they did a 1 + 1 with him.
Who then became a starter. Once Wesley started putting up decent numbers there was no way he'd agree to a cheap deal. Completely different scenario than Clark or E. Millsap.
 
This is what we SHOULD have done with Wesley Matthews. Instead, he was snatched up by Portland after his first season with the Jazz. I think we have just learned that when we find a nice player through scouting, injury opportunities, D-league caliber gem... that we bring a contractual condom for some protection for a couple of years.

Attaboys DL and KOC... Way to Trojan-up! I love locking up SAP #2 for 3 years.

Because Wesley was undrafted and probably questioned whether he would even get a contract.

Why in the bloody hell would Matthews chose the baby sap deal over the one he got from Portland?
 
Why in the bloody hell would Matthews chose the baby sap deal over the one he got from Portland?

Nobody was saying that. We were saying on his first contract the Jazz offered him, they should have had options for more than the one season. Obviously he was taking the Portland deal.
 
Nobody was saying that. We were saying on his first contract the Jazz offered him, they should have had options for more than the one season. Obviously he was taking the Portland deal.
I think the Matthews scenario changed the way the NBA does business with undrafted players. They had never really experienced anything like it. It would have taken incredible foresight to sign him to a Millsap type deal.
 
If you are going to sign a guy desperate to make the team, what can it hurt to ask for 2 years of team options? No matter if you even seen him play one minute?


Admittedly I'm not in the know with all the contract rules and whether not the NBA allows it. But if they do allow it then you should be doing it with every player you sign on a 1 year deal.

If your concern is you don't want to offend the player, then offer more in the first year to intice them. Instead of the minimum, double it. If the player turns out to be pretty good then you just got a steal on a player for the next three years. With no risk involved. You can bail by not picking up the option.

If it's possible to do then they should have done it with Mathews.
 
Matthews was a starter on a 50 win playoff team. He would've been stupid to take a deal like this, but we obviously should've attempted to lock him up like this.
 
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