Jazz trade for John Collins

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I don't mind Collins, but I'm curious. If we wanted to include him in a package to get someone else, how soon do the rules allow that he can be moved?

 

[Jazzmix]

ftr, he shot 39% from three with Quin Snyder as his coach, so there is reason to believe that toward the end of the season and when that picture was taken, the finger had healed up significantly.

I found some interview from september last year where he said that his finger is never going to be looking pretty but it doesn't bother him anymore, has full range of motion and feels comfortable.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don't mind Collins, but I'm curious. If we wanted to include him in a package to get someone else, how soon do the rules allow that he can be moved?

They have until July 6th to modify the deal if they want. They can trade him immediately in a 1 for 1 trade. They have to wait 60 days (I believe) to put him in a trade package.

 

[Coach Ellis]

They have until July 6th to modify the deal if they want. They can trade him immediately in a 1 for 1 trade. They have to wait 60 days (I believe) to put him in a trade package.

Sounds about right. Also, that’s everything DA did last year with Beverley (1 for 1 getting THT), Vando and Beasley (aggregated with Conley and NAW to get Westbrook and the Lakers pick.)

 

[NUMBERICA]

Just wanted to point out that the Conley trade facilitated the capspace necessary to make this deal happen, basically straight across. So, for Conley (35 years old), Vando, Beasley, NAW, and some 2nds, we got:

-a better 2023 pick
-a good Lakers pick
-John Collins (25 years old)

It's hard to turn five nickels into a three dimes but it looks like that just happened.

 

[framer]

Just wanted to point out that the Conley trade facilitated the capspace necessary to make this deal happen, basically straight across. So, for Conley (35 years old), Vando, Beasley, NAW, and some 2nds, we got:

-a better 2023 pick
-a good Lakers pick
-John Collins (25 years old)

It's hard to turn five nickels into a three dimes but it looks like that just happened.

You forgot to include that second round pick that looks as funky as Collin's finger.

 

[Eddie Zero]

You can’t say that’s the only reason. He’s a viable player and this trade has no downside. Very well could have the same effect that the trade for Lauri did.

Your optimism is just going to set you up for disappointment imo. The writing is on the wall. He is cooked

 

[Eddie Zero]

And Collins has had limited use offensively ever since McMillan took over and Capela was traded in. Explain how Collins numbers dropping from his 3rd year differ in logic from Lauri's drop from his 2nd year? All I see is different names at HC in Jim Boylen and Nate McMillan. Collins also had the burden of sharing lob targets and PnR with Capela, who also clogged his rim running. Both Kohn and Lauri were misutilized by bad offensive coaches which caused their progress to stall.

Last year he did shoot much worse but in all fairness he was rehabbing a nasty injury. And it obviously didn't destroy his shooting ability as evidenced by his late season surge in 3P% and 2nd best career mark for FT%, so the early season dip in 3P% doesnt look definitive at all.

Say what you want about Collins reasons for sucking, but imo LM was not anywhere close to declining. His usage was never gifted in Cleveland like it was here, and they clearly never even knew his abilitym or never would have shipped him along with so many picks etc for one guy.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Just wanted to point out that the Conley trade facilitated the capspace necessary to make this deal happen, basically straight across. So, for Conley (35 years old), Vando, Beasley, NAW, and some 2nds, we got:

-a better 2023 pick
-a good Lakers pick
-John Collins (25 years old)

It's hard to turn five nickels into a three dimes but it looks like that just happened.

If Collins is the same undeserving overpaid clown he was in ATL for the past couple seasons, all this will be seen as is a mistake. Like when Danny drafted Bane and traded him to the Griz or thought Fab Melo was worth developing smh
Every gm makes mistakes, and he clearly just did

 

[Elizah Huge]

Just wanted to point out that the Conley trade facilitated the capspace necessary to make this deal happen, basically straight across. So, for Conley (35 years old), Vando, Beasley, NAW, and some 2nds, we got:

-a better 2023 pick
-a good Lakers pick
-John Collins (25 years old)

It's hard to turn five nickels into a three dimes but it looks like that just happened.

People also forget the Bogey for KO swap saved us enough salary to get under the luxury tax while still being able to take Westbrook’s contract.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

Your optimism is just going to set you up for disappointment imo. The writing is on the wall. He is cooked

Why do I have the feeling that this is the f****** mantra that you repeat to yourself every morning in the bathroom mirror?

 

[framer]

People also forget the Bogey for KO swap saved us enough salary to get under the luxury tax while still being able to take Westbrook’s contract.

Yeah but Bogey is going to get traded for that FRP any day now. . .