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Jazz trade Olynyk and Ochai to Toronto for Kira Lewis, Otto Porter, and a 2024 1st round pick

Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

He is several tiers above Fournier. I like Porter better but he is not several tiers above Fournier. I think they are probably in about the same tier of player. But we all know you are a huge Porter homer so we can take your assessment with a grain of salt.
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We finally got him, guys. Porter finally arrived!
 
kabenac said:

Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

He is several tiers above Fournier. I like Porter better but he is not several tiers above Fournier. I think they are probably in about the same tier of player. But we all know you are a huge Porter homer so we can take your assessment with a grain of salt.
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We finally got him, guys. Porter finally arrived!
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I hope he never plays

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I know a lot of you are big DA fans, but as far as I can see, since his initial huge trade splash, he has done little more than gut the Jazz whenever they start to show any competitive spark. The deals he has made of late have been to say the least underwhelming. All I hear from his supporters is wait and see , something huge is coming, don't worry, Danny has THE plan. I wish I could have that much faith, but so far there doesn't appear to be a plan apart from training descent players so he can trade them for next to nothing and make other teams better. Frankly, I doubt Danny will turn the huge number of assets he has acquired into anything but more assets. Eventually a good number of fans will tire of starting over every trade deadline.
 
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I know a lot of you are big DA fans, but as far as I can see, since his initial huge trade splash, he has done little more than gut the Jazz whenever they start to show any competitive spark. The deals he has made of late have been to say the least underwhelming. All I hear from his supporters is wait and see , something huge is coming, don't worry, Danny has THE plan. I wish I could have that much faith, but so far there doesn't appear to be a plan apart from training descent players so he can trade them for next to nothing and make other teams better. Frankly, I doubt Danny will turn the huge number of assets he has acquired into anything but more assets. Eventually a good number of fans will tire of starting over every trade deadline.
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Indeed, being patient is difficult.

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bopahull said:
I know a lot of you are big DA fans, but as far as I can see, since his initial huge trade splash, he has done little more than gut the Jazz whenever they start to show any competitive spark. The deals he has made of late have been to say the least underwhelming. All I hear from his supporters is wait and see , something huge is coming, don't worry, Danny has THE plan. I wish I could have that much faith, but so far there doesn't appear to be a plan apart from training descent players so he can trade them for next to nothing and make other teams better. Frankly, I doubt Danny will turn the huge number of assets he has acquired into anything but more assets. Eventually a good number of fans will tire of starting over every trade deadline.
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thats possible. there is no guarantee that the draft assets will turn into great picks. the wolves and cavaliers are playing great now and if they continue those picks will suck. i will say this i thought the bogey trade for KO sucked when it first went down. it didnt suck, i just didnt know KO's value. these trade the last 2 days dont really help the present. but DA doesnt really care about the present he is looking to the future. its a tough job because the future is promised to no one. maybe his plans wont work out, maybe they will. chin up, stay mobile and be prepared to shift if things dont work out as planned.
 
bopahull said:
I know a lot of you are big DA fans, but as far as I can see, since his initial huge trade splash, he has done little more than gut the Jazz whenever they start to show any competitive spark. The deals he has made of late have been to say the least underwhelming. All I hear from his supporters is wait and see , something huge is coming, don't worry, Danny has THE plan. I wish I could have that much faith, but so far there doesn't appear to be a plan apart from training descent players so he can trade them for next to nothing and make other teams better. Frankly, I doubt Danny will turn the huge number of assets he has acquired into anything but more assets. Eventually a good number of fans will tire of starting over every trade deadline.
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So he is like a demented old man who is not trying to build a winning team, but collecting pebbles like someone said (probably TU).

Yet 3 young and very bright career building guys in Smith (DAs boss), Zanik and Hardy watch close by and dont intervene.

I wonder what their lunch table discussions are like?




Can we please stay attached to reality?
 
The reality is that Tay Henny and Brice have the rest of the season to show something. Tay Henny mostly left a lot to be desired last night. I suspect Ainge is high on Kira Lewis and I suspect he will get some run.
 
fishonjazz said:
Indeed, being patient is difficult.

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Its very hard but I am no longer content with us just being a good meddling team. I want us to be Championship competitive. When my fan instinct kicks-in and I start overrating and overvaluing our play and players I have to restrain myself and be realistic (protecting my heart). I'm no longer content with just being an ok team getting big wins against contenders and then having head scratching losses to bad teams a week later. I am happy and glad DA is here because when my Jazz fan contentment kicks in and I want to just settle just for a competitive game, I rest assured that we have a successful team executive that isn't a Jazz fan, but he's someone who's dedicated his entire life to the game of basketball and has been successful. By all accounts, that i've heard, league executives and insiders are saying Justin and Danny are doing a great job and I believe it. If it doesn't workout in 5 years we did our best.

Strategic Patience is very hard for a fan I understand how you guys feel.
 
bopahull said:
I know a lot of you are big DA fans, but as far as I can see, since his initial huge trade splash, he has done little more than gut the Jazz whenever they start to show any competitive spark. The deals he has made of late have been to say the least underwhelming. All I hear from his supporters is wait and see , something huge is coming, don't worry, Danny has THE plan. I wish I could have that much faith, but so far there doesn't appear to be a plan apart from training descent players so he can trade them for next to nothing and make other teams better. Frankly, I doubt Danny will turn the huge number of assets he has acquired into anything but more assets. Eventually a good number of fans will tire of starting over every trade deadline.
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I don't see anyone saying to wait because something huge is going to happen. What he has done is continue to collects assets while molding the roster so that are younger guys can actually get into the rotation. Some of you are obsessed with simply wanting to be competitive rather than giving us the best shot to actually put together a championship caliber roster. Figuring out what we may have in our young guys as soon as possible is a vital step in trying to build that type of roster because it gives us an idea of what we may be missing and where to be aggressive.
 
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