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Jazz Tried Trading Millsap on Draft Night

Honestly I would be pretty disappointed in KOC if there wasn't at least some talk to other teams about this. He wouldn't be doing his job if the subject hadn't even come up. Still think we need to keep Sap until we ether get a killer deal or Favors just plain beats him out of his playing time.
 
In a week like this every single player and pick is discussed. Even players that are labelled "untouchable" (and the Jazz shouldn't have any of these) are discussed because some other team still calls and asks and that may be reported as a discussion.
 
Yeah it's a toss up.

Do you try to see if he can play SF - let him work off the weight & become faster. One downside is, if it doesn't work out then you basically lose all of Millsap's trade value.

Or, do you try to trade him while his value is at its highest for a wing player.

I think it's really up to KOC's assessment as well as his discussions with Millsap and Millsap's willingness to work and succeed at the SF position.

We the public, I don't think have sufficient information to make an informed decision on this unfortunately...
 
I love the argument that since Millsap is a midget and easily replaceable that the Jazz can just go to the Wing Player Depot and trade him there for any one of those wings that are young, is (quite) good, could/would fit in, and are even available. You know, any one of those guys in the pile.
 
The word "tried" is key. I guess you can say they tried, but I suspect the reason they didn't actually do it is they would have to get a true haul to be willing to let him go. You might trade him if the return is spectacular, but you don't let a guy as valuable as Millsap go for the players most teams are willing to give up.

I'll bet they didn't try THAT hard.
 
Milsap and Harris for the 8 and a 2nd rounder (maybe a future first) should have been a done deal. Or at least Milsap for Stuckey.

Could you imagine a draft of Kanter, Knight and Burks? I think all of those guys were in the top 6 on Utah's draft board.
 
The-Joker said:
Milsap and Harris for the 8 and a 2nd rounder (maybe a future first) should have been a done deal. Or at least Milsap for Stuckey.

Could you imagine a draft of Kanter, Knight and Burks? I think all of those guys were in the top 6 on Utah's draft board.
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You realize we have to take salary back?
 
KoC is a very good trader on the NBA commodities market. NO WAY he'd trade Millsap unless he KNEW he was getting a greater return. And that goes for any other player on our roster. The Deron Williams trade was a great example...
 
If you can trade Millsap, a future bench player, for a starting sf, then you do it in a heartbeat.
 
Exactly. So I'd say there wasn't a team out there with that offer on the table, which explains why it didn't happen. KoC did say there was a lot of discussion involving trading the #12 pick, but we opted out when Burks fell to us. Perhaps Millsap was involved there...
 
green said:
If you can trade Millsap, a future bench player, for a starting sf, then you do it in a heartbeat.
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Who is worth trading for him?

Here is the list of NBA.COM 50 'best' players (forwards) according to Efficiency. This isn't a list to debate whether Efficiency is a valid assessment, but it helped me quickly get a nice list of 50 forwards in a reasonably ordered list. The list of possiblities is small actually, and then with the shortlist, you have to see if that team has a need for him... (i.e. "hey we have two excellent small forwards and would like to get rid of one.")

PLAYER NAME, TEAM NAME GP MPG PTS EFF
LeBron James , MIA 79 38.8 26.7 28.6
Kevin Love , MIN 73 35.8 20.2 28.4
* Blake Griffin , LAC82 37.9 22.5 25.6
Pau Gasol , LAL 82 37.1 18.8 25.4
Kevin Durant , OKC78 38.9 27.7 24.9
Amar'e Stoudemire , NYK78 36.8 25.3 24.6
Zach Randolph , MEM75 36.2 20.1 24.4
Dirk Nowitzki , DAL73 34.3 23.0 23.5
LaMarcus Aldridge , POR81 39.7 21.8 23.1
Carmelo Anthony , NYK-DEN77 35.7 25.6 22.7
David Lee , GSW73 36.1 16.5 21.2
Kevin Garnett , BOS71 31.2 14.9 20.8
Paul Millsap , UTA76 34.3 17.3 20.6
Josh Smith , ATL77 34.4 16.5 20.5
Chris Bosh , MIA77 36.4 18.7 20.4
David West , NOH70 35.0 18.9 20.4
Carlos Boozer , CHI59 31.9 17.5 19.8
Paul Pierce , BOS80 34.7 18.9 19.8
Rudy Gay , MEM54 39.9 19.8 19.7
Luis Scola , HOU74 32.6 18.3 19.6
Lamar Odom , LAL82 32.1 14.4 19.6
Tim Duncan , SAS76 28.4 13.4 19.5
Elton Brand , PHI81 34.6 15.0 19.4
Andre Iguodala , PHI67 36.8 14.1 18.5
Gerald Wallace , POR-CHA71 38.0 15.7 18.5
Danny Granger , IND79 35.0 20.5 17.7
Andray Blatche , WAS64 34.0 16.8 17.6
Kris Humphries , NJN74 27.8 10.0 17.1
Luol Deng , CHI82 39.2 17.4 17.1
Dorell Wright , GSW82 38.4 16.4 16.6
Antawn Jamison , CLE56 32.9 18.0 16.4
Serge Ibaka , OKC82 27.0 9.9 15.6
Wilson Chandler , DEN-NYK72 33.3 15.3 15.4
Michael Beasley , MIN73 32.4 19.2 15.4
Danilo Gallinari , DEN-NYK62 34.0 15.6 15.2
Shawn Marion , DAL80 28.2 12.5 15.1
Andrei Kirilenko , UTA64 31.2 11.7 14.9
Channing Frye , PHX77 33.0 12.7 14.9
Amir Johnson , TOR72 25.7 9.6 14.6
Boris Diaw , CHA82 33.9 11.3 14.6
Thaddeus Young , PHI82 26.0 12.7 13.9
Reggie Evans , TOR30 26.5 4.4 13.7
Grant Hill , PHX80 30.1 13.2 13.6
Hedo Turkoglu , ORL-PHX81 31.2 10.8 13.6
Tayshaun Prince , DET78 32.8 14.1 13.5
Kenyon Martin , DEN48 25.7 8.6 13.2
Nicolas Batum , POR80 31.6 12.4 13.0
* Ed Davis , TOR65 24.6 7.7 13.0
Jeff Green , BOS-OKC75 32.4 13.3 12.8
Drew Gooden , MIL35 24.6 11.3 12.8
 
From your list, I would trade him for...Hmmm...Gay, Granger, Chandler...man, the SF position sucks right now. That's the problem. Millsap is a very good player. He is just a very good bench player. If you can get a starter for him, you do it, because your starter will play more minutes and have a greater opportunity to help the team.

I am not only for trading Millsap. If you call on Chandler and Denver says they want Jefferson instead, I get a pick from them and do it. Either one is expendable. Also, I don't know if I pull the trigger on a trade yet. Wait until the trade deadline, and hopefully Kanter or Favors has proven by then they are ready to take over, unless you get an offer that blows your socks off.
 
green said:
From your list, I would trade him for...Hmmm...Gay, Granger, Chandler...man, the SF position sucks right now. That's the problem. Millsap is a very good player. He is just a very good bench player. If you can get a starter for him, you do it, because your starter will play more minutes and have a greater opportunity to help the team.

I am not only for trading Millsap. If you call on Chandler and Denver says they want Jefferson instead, I get a pick from them and do it. Either one is expendable. Also, I don't know if I pull the trigger on a trade yet. Wait until the trade deadline, and hopefully Kanter or Favors has proven by then they are ready to take over, unless you get an offer that blows your socks off.
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I think for this reason you can see the legit trade theories is about 2. And with that you need the other teams' situation to warrant a trade of a SF. And then, adding in the fact that there appears to be a SF drought, means it Milsap is more valuable as a keeper than traded.

Also, if there is so few good SF's around, then what is the requirement to have an SF on your team? Have we evolved to the point where there is PF, SG, PG (or in Jazz vernacular, Post, Wing, PG?) Also with this thinking, who is such a threat at SF that Milsap would get "killed" as he plays the SF?

It's just not clear to me at thispoint.

EDIT - my apolgies to Millsap for spelling his name wrong...
 
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