Jazz vs Nets | Wednesday November 17th @ 7pm

[Hopper]

Fes should always play before Smellson. Not even close. This is one of the things I hate about Jerry.

Like I done said...time for the Fess fanboyz to start callin Elson names agin, eh?

btw, ya done misquoted me in your sig. I aint never said Fess sucks.

Fess homers, they suck, sure, but Fess don't.

So, if ya wanna quote me, change that to "Fess fanboyz suck," eh? But that aint the way fanboyz play. Anybuddy who doesn't readily acknowledge that their boy is more better than Jordan is, in effect, sayin they boy sucks, the way they see thangs.

I'll give S2 credit for his ambition, at least. He don't stop at dissin Fess's competitor for back-up minutes, he goes straight to the top and maligns the starter (who has wrongfully usurped his boyz proper place). Jefferson has 16 pts, 9 rebounds. If Fess done that, his fanboyz would immediately be pimpin him for league MVP. But if Jefferson does it, then, per S2, that is merely "less bad than usual." Go figure, eh?

 

[VINYLONE]

Here's a positive note. Last year at this point the Jazz were 6-6. With Bozzer playing the PF position.

 

[InGameStrategy]

"On Tuesday, the Jazz had a rare day of practice, which they haven't had in a week since leaving last Monday for a four-games-in-five-nights stretch in the Southeast...Williams said after Monday's game that he was looking forward to practicing. At Tuesday's practice, Williams expounded on that, saying the Jazz need to work on "concentration (and) executing for the whole game, being in the right spots and then playing defense for the whole game, talking, communicating."
https://www.deseretnews.com/mobile/...Jazz-anxious-to-bounce-back-against-Nets.html

The newspaper reported, accurately, that Fess missed this practice. But whaddaya git from the Fess homers? Claims that anybuddy who believes the newspaper don't know nuthin, deceptively-worded apologies designed to give the impression (which some chumps, like, S2, bite on, like HARD) that Fess did participate in the practice, and ultimately, once that fails, an Allen Iverson "we just talkin bout practice," dismissal.

First of all, the article doesn't say that Fes didn't practice; it just said that two or three players weren't at full strength. Maybe a reasonable inference, but it never stated (and you never cited the article by the way, which begs the question as to whether you were talking out of your azz).

But I never said that he didn't practice the day before. I was referring to the day of, and then further clarified that by offering the notion that a shootaround can approximate a practice in terms of relevance, especially since that it is the day of. Go4 said that Fes rode the bike in practice; I wonder if he (and AK, too) participated in the film session.

This article also confirmed what I cited that practice has been few and far between, making it a data point but also an inconsistent basis for a major indicator of in-game performance. I don't see that Elson's performance has been significantly better than Fes's, although Elson produced some much-needed rebounds in the last game and has logged more rebounds overall. I also didn't protest Sloan's decision to go with Elson instead of Fes in the last game, although I did protest the laxity with which the players on the court are allowed to play even when they are dogging it.

So I don't owe you squat.

 

[Hopper]

First of all, the article doesn't say that Fes didn't practice; it just said that two or three players weren't at full strength. Maybe a reasonable inference, but it never stated (and you never cited the article by the way, which begs the question as to whether you were talking out of your azz).

Like I done axxed before, S2, read much? Ya think they aint never been but one article in the paper, that the idea? Very early in this very thread a newspaper article sayin: "Fesenko: Dizzyness, didn't practice; game-time decison" was cited.

If ya caint read, it won't do me no good to repeat what already done been writ, eh?

 

[InGameStrategy]

Like I done axxed before, S2, read much? Ya think they aint never been but one article in the paper, that the idea. Very early in this very thread a newspaper article sayin: "Fesenko: didn't practice, game-time decison" was cited.

If ya caint read, it won't do me no good to repeat what already done been writ, eh?

What would do good is to cite your sources. I never said he didn't practice.

Fortunately I was talking about shootaround anyway. Just commenting on your sloppiness.

 

[Hopper]

Fortunately I was talking about shootaround anyway. Just commenting on your sloppiness.

Yeah, right, eh? You was callin my observation that Go4 was, in an evasive and disingenous manner, acknowledgin that Fess didn't participate in practice, "ignorance" and "garbage." After all, you pointed out, Go4 said he "fully participated." Chump. Backtrack right on ahead witcho bad self, there, eh?

 

[InGameStrategy]

Yeah, right, eh? You was callin my observation that Go4 was, in an evasive and disingenous manner, acknowledgin that Fess didn't participate in practice, "ignorance" and "garbage." After all, you pointed out, Go4 said he "fully participated." Chump. Backtrack right on ahead witcho bad self, there, eh?

He practiced (long shootaround) on the day of the game. He didn't practice the day before. He was ready to play. Sloan didn't play him. I was OK with that. Yet your spew continues.

 

[Hopper]

He practiced (long shootaround) on the day of the game.

Yeah, he attended some shoot-arounds last year, too, so NOBUDDY can say he didn't practice, just because he misses a much-needed practice session.

You quoted (without, *gasp*, citin your source) Phil Johnson's post-game interview earlier. I heard it too. Johnson went out of his way to make a distinction between a "shootaround" and a practice. He also pointed out that those WHO WEREN'T playin big minutes were given strenous practice workouts, while they eased up on the worn-down starters.

Your "argument" is this: So what if he missed a (rare) practice opportunity? He went to shootaround.

Ya been takin "coachin 101" lessons from Iverson, that it, S2?

 

[Marty McFly]

Millsap didn't practice today. What a wuss.

 

[go4jazz]

Once an ... always an ...

Yeah, he attended some shoot-arounds last year, too, so NOBUDDY can say he didn't practice, just because he misses a much-needed practice session.

You quoted (without, *gasp*, citin your source) Phil Johnson's post-game interview earlier. I heard it too. Johnson went out of his way to make a distinction between a "shootaround" and a practice. He also pointed out that those WHO WEREN'T playin big minutes were given strenous practice workouts, while they eased up on the worn-down starters.

Your "argument" is this: So what if he missed a (rare) practice opportunity? He went to shootaround.

Ya been takin "coachin 101" lessons from Iverson, that it, S2?

Still waiting for your elbow beat down appointment time. I want to see how dizzy you are that night and the next day when you ride a bike for 2 hours. While I am waiting, why don't you go back and read where I say that he didn't practice the day before the game but rode a bike for 2 hours. Yeah, was really skirting the subject there. Secondly, whether you say you don't like Fes or you don't it doesn't matter. Your tone, condescension, name calling (Dizzy) etc. say exactly what you feel and everyone knows it. Fans of Fes or not, everyone knows it. Its ok though, you can hop on the Portland board next year or perhaps Houston and keep spouting your same garbage because as an unrestricted free agent next year, the Jazz aren't really giving him much reason to stick around.

 

[Hopper]

Millsap didn't practice today. What a wuss.

If Fess had a headache, and was "dizzy" (what else is new there, eh?) and couldn't bear to practice, so be it. I aint sayin he shoulda practiced. Only he knows how he felt. Either way, he missed what (for him especially) was an important practice.

Harp was kinda makin fun of Fess for not practicin because of a headache.

Sloan once said John Stockton won every race in every practice, every year he was there. Then he took it back. He said he lost once when he had the flu. He went on to say that the fact that Stockton still tried to win said more about him than winnin races.

Sloan played the second half of a game with a broken foot. He played with broken ribs.

Steve Nash goes into the locker room to git 15 stitches, and is back on the floor 10 minutes later.

Michael Jordan and Isiah Thomas played entire games (at a high level) with severe headaches and other flu symptoms.

Granted, not every player can have the tenaciousness, the determination, and the ability to endure extreme pain as guys like Stockton, Malone, and Sloan. But it wouldn't surprise me if Sloan took notice of the fact that Fess couldn't even play the next day over what (for NBA players) was a relatively minor injury.

 

[Siro]

As unreasonable as Hopper usually is when it comes to Fes, I have to agree that his excuses for not participating are getting old. How many more headache/stomachache/bad mood injuries must we endure from him? This is a major concern since I think Fes is an important factor in being a contender, specially with AJ's terrible defense.