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JazzFanz BEAST Fantasy Draft - Round 1 - The Fresh Prince vs. Weezur

Which team would win in a 7-game series?

  • The Fresh Prince

    Votes: 15 50.0%

  • Weezur

    Votes: 15 50.0%
  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .
Smith would jack shots. The opposition would love it if he became the focal point.

Blocks are an over-rated statistic.

What are John Wall's playoff statistics? It's hilarious you'd even try to knock CP3....

This is about conversation.... I'm conversing.



Melo at the 2...... Holy ****ing God, that should disqualify you right there.
 
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Smith would jack shots. The opposition would love it if he became the focal point.

Blocks are an over-rated statistic.

What are John Wall's playoff statistics? It's hilarious you'd even try to knock CP3....

This is about conversation.... I'm conversing.



Melo at the 2...... Holy ****ing God, that should disqualify you right there.
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Not when you have Slow Joe Johnson guarding him.

Paul folded last year against Mike Conley, I'm just saying.
 
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Ok.

Conley did something so Wall is a lock to do that same thing, damn the evidence.

Ok.

What about everything else I said?
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Fast break points. Too much speed. Way. Too much. Nobody focuses on that though.
Josh Smith wouldn't need to be a focal point.

I got Carmelo. Ibaka guarding Melo? I doubt that.
 
Hack said:
A players worth isn't necessarily tied to his team's success. There are a million examples that can be made where a bad player was on a good team and a good player was on a bad team.

Its a terrible argument to try and use.


Either you can judge a player off his own merits or you can't.

If all you go off is whether or not a player has had success in the playoffs, then you would be a terrible GM or talent scout.
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Hey numbnuts, this isn't about being a GM... It's about determining who might win in a 7-game series. Experience in the league, and experience in 7-game series, matters. Look it up.

To say that a player's value isn't related to team success is going too far. I never said they were equivalent to one another, which is what you'd love to make it seem like I said. So I didn't "use" this "terrible argument".
 
Ibaka and Chandler are so ****ing redundant. The defense would be great, but they'd have a hard time scoring down low which is a recipe for disaster unless you have craaaazy scoring with your wings.
 
spycam1 said:
Ibaka and Chandler are so ****ing redundant. The defense would be great, but they'd have a hard time scoring down low which is a recipe for disaster unless you have craaaazy scoring with your wings.
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The point of Boozer is to come in and score if The offense is dragging with Ibaka and Chandler. Also don't discount Ibaka's mid range jumper.
"Ibaka ranks No. 1 among power forwards in field-goal percentage at 58.7 percent, a mark that would blow away his previous season-best of 54.3 percent (accomplished in both his first and second seasons)."
Source: https://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/12/13/is-ibaka-the-best-mid-range-shooter/

I believe if Ibaka had a more passing PG, he'd be known for that shot.
 
zbone said:
Who is going to score on Weezur's team? Parsons? :)
Not much outside shooting for either team. It's going to be an ugly cluster****y defensive grind
TFP for me despite immaturity.
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Outside shooting-
Cp3- 35% 3 pointer, 48% FG
Parsons- 37% 3 pointer, 47% FG
Joe Johnson- 37% 3 pointer, 44% FG

CP3 is a little low, but I imagine that's due to him being a focal point of the enemy's defense.
 
Catchall said:
FP's team has more offense in the front court. I think that's the difference.
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Agreed.

But I would take CP3 with Weez's front court VS Wall with FP's front court any day of the week...


CP3 will find ways to get Ibaka & Chandler going offensively. I'm not not sold on Wall........
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Agreed.

But I would take CP3 with Weez's front court VS Wall with FP's front court any day of the week...


CP3 will find ways to get Ibaka & Chandler going offensively. I'm not not sold on Wall........
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I hear you, but Josh Smith is >> than Ibaka, and Davis is >>> than Chandler. Melo on a good day is good for 30+ points. This should be a breakout year for Davis.
 
Catchall said:
I hear you, but Josh Smith is >> than Ibaka, and Davis is >>> than Chandler. Melo on a good day is good for 30+ points. This should be a breakout year for Davis.
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You've got to take into account experience too though.

CP3 >>>> Wall

Ibaka is battle tested with multiple WCF appearances & a Finals appearance - what has Josh Smith done?

Chandler is a NBA Champ - Davis has potential but we're talking RIGHT NOW.

Boozer's craftiness is going to win out against Faried in a 7 game series too....


Too much playoffs experience on Weezur's side IMO.
 
Catchall said:
I hear you, but Josh Smith is >> than Ibaka, and Davis is >>> than Chandler. Melo on a good day is good for 30+ points. This should be a breakout year for Davis.
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Chandler's got a good 3 inches and 20 pounds on Davis. Rebounding will be an advantage for us.
Josh Smith > Ibaka? Potentially...yes, I'll give you that but Smith makes quite a bit of selfish plays. It's why his teams have never gotten anywhere.
The worst part about Josh Smith is how much he thinks of himself as a shooter and specifically a 3 point shooter.
Look at his shot chart- He's not anywhere near a shooter. In fact, more often than not, he's taking a shot below league average.
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Let's look at Ibaka here.
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Ibaka knows his role on a team.

If we're talking my team in this matchup it'll also be experience, as KKK pointed out.
Factoid:
Did you know that Carmello Anthony has the worst winning % in playoffs out of anyone in history who's played at least 50 playoff games?
Source: https://newyork.sbnation.com/new-yo...anthony-worst-nba-playoffs-winning-percentage

EDIT- Too tired to enlarge that pic....
 
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