No, they are 3 years(I think), unless the guy refuses to sign them(like KJ McDaniels)... then they are 1 year. The huge majority of players don't take that risk, they sign the 3 year deal.
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No, they are 3 years(I think), unless the guy refuses to sign them(like KJ McDaniels)... then they are 1 year. The huge majority of players don't take that risk, they sign the 3 year deal.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Let's put it this way. First rounders are automatically rewarded three years. Otherwise u can let the guy go through training camp and give how many years u want and not fully guaranteed. First slip up or injury u can cut him no problem
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yep, but still you are missing the point ... worst case scenario is - you pay him the salary for 3 years x 1M and if he becomes a huge cancer to the team, you simply send him home and tell him not to report to practices. All you lose is ~1% of your salary cap. The risk-reward calculus makes sense for you to take the risk, simply because if he clears his act, you might get something like Gobert in him.
stormkoopacv03
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Alright.. I'll be making my pick in a bit.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Where is Ellis? I'm anxious to make my final pick.
Coach Ellis
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Pick is made. Fire away.
Guys, what do we do with Kaba and Luwawu? There are rumors that they will withdraw from the draft, but I haven't seen anything official yet? They have until tomorrow to withdraw ... DX has pulled them from their mock and has put them in the 2016 mock.
Coach Ellis
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Good question. My guess is that they both pull out and reclassify. I wouldn't take either of them, but it's up to you. If you do take them and then they withdraw I'll let you pick a different player that hasn't been selected in the meantime. If you think someone you like will be on the board after tomorrow, you can go ahead and gamble on that.
stormkoopacv03
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Things are gonna get interesting now, now that the 2nd rd has started. lol I just hope some good players still fall down to me at the end of round. 
stormkoopacv03
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Aleksander Vezenkov withdrew from the draft and was my selection at #30. I call dibs on Guillermo Hernangomez, C Sevilla as a replacement at #30.
Here's my summary of the teams that I was trusted with:
Los Angeles Lakers
Picks:
#02. D'Angelo Russel, PG/SG
#34. Chris McCullough, PF
#44. Anthony Brown, SF
Trade:
The Lakers traded #27 for Phoenix Suns' #44 and the right for first round pick swap for 2017 with the Suns(if not conveyed it turns into two second round picks in 2017 and 2018).
Summary: The Lakers took D'Angelo Russell who they considered the best player on the board at #2... An amazing shotmaker, scorer and playmaker, great distributor of the ball with swagger worthy of the flashy Lakers. Russell had of one of the most impressive offensive freshman seasons in the last 10 years and shot up through the draft to land at no. 2. The Lakers will be relying on him to be the teams playmaker, primary ballhandler and scorer post the retirement of Kobe. With the second pick the Lakers considered picking a center at #27 but since Upshaw was taken and the drop off past him was too big and the Lakers decided to move back to the second round and in the process secure at least two future second round picks and at best a first round pick swap with the Suns in 2017. The center spot will have to be addressed through free agency in the future or next year's draft(if Kobe stays healthy for the full year... blessed be Kobe's knees).
At #34 with their second pick of the draft the Lakers selected Chris McCullough- a great value pick who slipped to the second round after being projected as a lottery pick before getting injured in January. The Lakers are shooting for the stars with that one. They will hope to develop McCullough slowly and through the D-League at first, but the expectation for the Syracuse PF are big - he has the potential to be very versatile defender with good offensive skill to add to it.
After that pick the Lakers were eying the Stanford product Anthony Brown as their next target and desperately tried to make a trade up from 44 to mid 30s but their attempts didn't find a willing partner for a deal. The last offer was made to a team in the early 40s, still unsuccessful. Fortunately Brown slipped through the cracks and still landed with the Lakers at 44. He's not the most flashy player in the league, but he has major role player potential. He was one of the best shooters in the draft, recording impressive 46% and 44% last couple of shooting season. He's also a good defender and the hope is he will be a good complement for Russell's playmaking ability and will take advantage of the open shots that Russell will create in the future.
Houston Rockets
Picks:
#13. Kelly Oubre, SF
#25. Tyus Jones, PG
Trades:
Houston traded #18 (Sam Dekker) and Houston's 2016 top-3 protected first round pick to Phoenix for #13 (Kelly Oubre)
Houston traded #32 and $3M cash to Philadelphia for #25 pick
Summary: The Houston Rockets entered the draft with one major concern/need - the PG spot, which might be vacated by Patrick Beverley if he leaves during the summer, and another concern - wing depth/quality because of the possible departure of Correy Brewer, Jason Terry and the underwhelming performance of Kostas Papanikolaou in the second part of the season. The Rockets didn't think there are any PGs in the mid-first round worth a pick so they decided to focus on acquiring a major talent on the wing - Kelly Oubre. It was clear that he wouldn't fall to #18, so the Rockets traded up using next year's pick(which projects to be late first) in order to move to 13 and pick up Oubre. Oubre's physical profile is one of an elite athlete with great length similar in some ways to Trevor Ariza. Oubre wouldn't be ready to play major role in the first year or two, but that would give him the possibility to learn from a guy with very similar physical measurements in Ariza and possibly take the reins from him in the future. Oubre has shown in college flashes of great defensive potential. He uses his long limbs to bother opponents shots, scoop the ball off opponent's dribble in a way eerily similar to the way Kawhi Leonard does it, and also plays the passing lanes. He also rebounds great and has great shooting form, that with improved consistency projects to make him a great shooter in the league. He also said in a recent workout in Utah that he might be better than Harden some day... well, what better way to get better than Harden than to play and learn every day in practice against him.
For the next pick the Rockets could either wait for the 32nd pick and pick whoever is left from the PG's projected to go in late-first-early-second or try to move up in the draft and pick the one they liked best. A great opportunity arose when Philadelphia declared they are willing to move back to the second. That was enough and a deal was made in which the Rockets moved up to #25 for the price of 3M in cash. The PG I chose for them was Tyus Jones, who is one of the favorites of this year's draft when it comes to analytical projection models. James Harden is on the record saying he'd like the Rockets to upgrade the PG spot and for him to share some of the ball-handling responsibilities with a true PG. Tyus is the perfect fit for that role - he can both run the offense with his great vision and passing and hit open shots when he plays off ball when Harden collapses the defense on his drives and kicks out to perimeter shooters.
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Los Angeles Lakers
Picks:
#02. D'Angelo Russel, PG/SG
#34. Chris McCullough, PF
#44. Anthony Brown, SF
Trade:
The Lakers traded #27 for Phoenix Suns' #44 and the right for first round pick swap for 2017 with the Suns(if not conveyed it turns into two second round picks in 2017 and 2018).
Summary: The Lakers took D'Angelo Russell who they considered the best player on the board at #2... An amazing shotmaker, scorer and playmaker, great distributor of the ball with swagger worthy of the flashy Lakers. Russell had of one of the most impressive offensive freshman seasons in the last 10 years and shot up through the draft to land at no. 2. The Lakers will be relying on him to be the teams playmaker, primary ballhandler and scorer post the retirement of Kobe. With the second pick the Lakers considered picking a center at #27 but since Upshaw was taken and the drop off past him was too big and the Lakers decided to move back to the second round and in the process secure at least two future second round picks and at best a first round pick swap with the Suns in 2017. The center spot will have to be addressed through free agency in the future or next year's draft(if Kobe stays healthy for the full year... blessed be Kobe's knees).
At #34 with their second pick of the draft the Lakers selected Chris McCullough- a great value pick who slipped to the second round after being projected as a lottery pick before getting injured in January. The Lakers are shooting for the stars with that one. They will hope to develop McCullough slowly and through the D-League at first, but the expectation for the Syracuse PF are big - he has the potential to be very versatile defender with good offensive skill to add to it.
After that pick the Lakers were eying the Stanford product Anthony Brown as their next target and desperately tried to make a trade up from 44 to mid 30s but their attempts didn't find a willing partner for a deal. The last offer was made to a team in the early 40s, still unsuccessful. Fortunately Brown slipped through the cracks and still landed with the Lakers at 44. He's not the most flashy player in the league, but he has major role player potential. He was one of the best shooters in the draft, recording impressive 46% and 44% last couple of shooting season. He's also a good defender and the hope is he will be a good complement for Russell's playmaking ability and will take advantage of the open shots that Russell will create in the future.
Houston Rockets
Picks:
#13. Kelly Oubre, SF
#25. Tyus Jones, PG
Trades:
Houston traded #18 (Sam Dekker) and Houston's 2016 top-3 protected first round pick to Phoenix for #13 (Kelly Oubre)
Houston traded #32 and $3M cash to Philadelphia for #25 pick
Summary: The Houston Rockets entered the draft with one major concern/need - the PG spot, which might be vacated by Patrick Beverley if he leaves during the summer, and another concern - wing depth/quality because of the possible departure of Correy Brewer, Jason Terry and the underwhelming performance of Kostas Papanikolaou in the second part of the season. The Rockets didn't think there are any PGs in the mid-first round worth a pick so they decided to focus on acquiring a major talent on the wing - Kelly Oubre. It was clear that he wouldn't fall to #18, so the Rockets traded up using next year's pick(which projects to be late first) in order to move to 13 and pick up Oubre. Oubre's physical profile is one of an elite athlete with great length similar in some ways to Trevor Ariza. Oubre wouldn't be ready to play major role in the first year or two, but that would give him the possibility to learn from a guy with very similar physical measurements in Ariza and possibly take the reins from him in the future. Oubre has shown in college flashes of great defensive potential. He uses his long limbs to bother opponents shots, scoop the ball off opponent's dribble in a way eerily similar to the way Kawhi Leonard does it, and also plays the passing lanes. He also rebounds great and has great shooting form, that with improved consistency projects to make him a great shooter in the league. He also said in a recent workout in Utah that he might be better than Harden some day... well, what better way to get better than Harden than to play and learn every day in practice against him.
For the next pick the Rockets could either wait for the 32nd pick and pick whoever is left from the PG's projected to go in late-first-early-second or try to move up in the draft and pick the one they liked best. A great opportunity arose when Philadelphia declared they are willing to move back to the second. That was enough and a deal was made in which the Rockets moved up to #25 for the price of 3M in cash. The PG I chose for them was Tyus Jones, who is one of the favorites of this year's draft when it comes to analytical projection models. James Harden is on the record saying he'd like the Rockets to upgrade the PG spot and for him to share some of the ball-handling responsibilities with a true PG. Tyus is the perfect fit for that role - he can both run the offense with his great vision and passing and hit open shots when he plays off ball when Harden collapses the defense on his drives and kicks out to perimeter shooters.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Here's my summary of the teams that I was trusted with:
Los Angeles Lakers
Picks:
#02. D'Angelo Russel, PG/SG
#34. Chris McCullough, PF
#44. Anthony Brown, SF
Trade:
The Lakers traded #27 for Phoenix Suns' #44 and the right for first round pick swap for 2017 with the Suns(if not conveyed it turns into two second round picks in 2017 and 2018).
Summary: The Lakers took D'Angelo Russell who they considered the best player on the board at #2... An amazing shotmaker, scorer and playmaker, great distributor of the ball with swagger worthy of the flashy Lakers. Russell had of one of the most impressive offensive freshman seasons in the last 10 years and shot up through the draft to land at no. 2. The Lakers will be relying on him to be the teams playmaker, primary ballhandler and scorer post the retirement of Kobe. With the second pick the Lakers considered picking a center at #27 but since Upshaw was taken and the drop off past him was too big and the Lakers decided to move back to the second round and in the process secure at least two future second round picks and at best a first round pick swap with the Suns in 2017. The center spot will have to be addressed through free agency in the future or next year's draft(if Kobe stays healthy for the full year... blessed be Kobe's knees).
At #34 with their second pick of the draft the Lakers selected Chris McCullough- a great value pick who slipped to the second round after being projected as a lottery pick before getting injured in January. The Lakers are shooting for the stars with that one. They will hope to develop McCullough slowly and through the D-League at first, but the expectation for the Syracuse PF are big - he has the potential to be very versatile defender with good offensive skill to add to it.
After that pick the Lakers were eying the Stanford product Anthony Brown as their next target and desperately tried to make a trade up from 44 to mid 30s but their attempts didn't find a willing partner for a deal. The last offer was made to a team in the early 40s, still unsuccessful. Fortunately Brown slipped through the cracks and still landed with the Lakers at 44. He's not the most flashy player in the league, but he has major role player potential. He was one of the best shooters in the draft, recording impressive 46% and 44% last couple of shooting season. He's also a good defender and the hope is he will be a good complement for Russell's playmaking ability and will take advantage of the open shots that Russell will create in the future.
Houston Rockets
Picks:
#13. Kelly Oubre, SF
#25. Tyus Jones, PG
Trades:
Houston traded #18 (Sam Dekker) and Houston's 2016 top-3 protected first round pick to Phoenix for #13 (Kelly Oubre)
Houston traded #32 and $3M cash to Philadelphia for #25 pick
Summary: The Houston Rockets entered the draft with one major concern/need - the PG spot, which might be vacated by Patrick Beverley if he leaves during the summer, and another concern - wing depth/quality because of the possible departure of Correy Brewer, Jason Terry and the underwhelming performance of Kostas Papanikolaou in the second part of the season. The Rockets didn't think there are any PGs in the mid-first round worth a pick so they decided to focus on acquiring a major talent on the wing - Kelly Oubre. It was clear that he wouldn't fall to #18, so the Rockets traded up using next year's pick(which projects to be late first) in order to move to 13 and pick up Oubre. Oubre's physical profile is one of an elite athlete with great length similar in some ways to Trevor Ariza. Oubre wouldn't be ready to play major role in the first year or two, but that would give him the possibility to learn from a guy with very similar physical measurements in Ariza and possibly take the reins from him in the future. Oubre has shown in college flashes of great defensive potential. He uses his long limbs to bother opponents shots, scoop the ball off opponent's dribble in a way eerily similar to the way Kawhi Leonard does it, and also plays the passing lanes. He also rebounds great and has great shooting form, that with improved consistency projects to make him a great shooter in the league. He also said in a recent workout in Utah that he might be better than Harden some day... well, what better way to get better than Harden than to play and learn every day in practice against him.
For the next pick the Rockets could either wait for the 32nd pick and pick whoever is left from the PG's projected to go in late-first-early-second or try to move up in the draft and pick the one they liked best. A great opportunity arose when Philadelphia declared they are willing to move back to the second. That was enough and a deal was made in which the Rockets moved up to #25 for the price of 3M in cash. The PG I chose for them was Tyus Jones, who is one of the favorites of this year's draft when it comes to analytical projection models. James Harden is on the record saying he'd like the Rockets to upgrade the PG spot and for him to share some of the ball-handling responsibilities with a true PG. Tyus is the perfect fit for that role - he can both run the offense with his great vision and passing and hit open shots when he plays off ball when Harden collapses the defense on his drives and kicks out to perimeter shooters.
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My god just realized u had the two most hated teams in Jazzfanz.
Coach Ellis
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Minnesota
1.01.) C: Karl-Anthony Towns - Kentucky
2.31.) PF: Cliff Alexander - Kansas
2.36.) C: Mouhammadou Jaiteh - France
Wanted to solidify the front court with Towns and Jaiteh. Ended up with Alexander as a replacement after George de Paula withdrew from the draft. Looking forward to seeing what Garnett can do with a stable full of young bigs. All 3 have very different skill sets.
Phoenix Suns
1.24.) SF: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson - Arizona
1.27.) PG: Delon Wright - Utah
2.35.) PF: Jarell Martin - LSU
Houston Rockets 2016 1st round pick (top 3 protected)
Picked this team up after the GM missed two picks. Ended up having him trade away Oubre (who I'd have kept) and then I traded Dekker to have some pick flexibility. Move up again for Wright and Martin - who I see as good role players that can contribute early. Not the best outcome, but I feel good about what I added to the team on short notice.
1.01.) C: Karl-Anthony Towns - Kentucky
2.31.) PF: Cliff Alexander - Kansas
2.36.) C: Mouhammadou Jaiteh - France
Wanted to solidify the front court with Towns and Jaiteh. Ended up with Alexander as a replacement after George de Paula withdrew from the draft. Looking forward to seeing what Garnett can do with a stable full of young bigs. All 3 have very different skill sets.
Phoenix Suns
1.24.) SF: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson - Arizona
1.27.) PG: Delon Wright - Utah
2.35.) PF: Jarell Martin - LSU
Houston Rockets 2016 1st round pick (top 3 protected)
Picked this team up after the GM missed two picks. Ended up having him trade away Oubre (who I'd have kept) and then I traded Dekker to have some pick flexibility. Move up again for Wright and Martin - who I see as good role players that can contribute early. Not the best outcome, but I feel good about what I added to the team on short notice.
My picks
Magic
Jahlil Okafor PF/C Duke
Nets
Norman Powell SG UCLA
Dakari Tucker C Kentucky
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Magic
Jahlil Okafor PF/C Duke
Nets
Norman Powell SG UCLA
Dakari Tucker C Kentucky
Blah
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Philadelphia 76ers
Started with 3, 35, 37, 47, 58, 60.
Ended up with:
Kristaps Porzingis (#5)
Jerian Grant (#21)
Michael Frazier (#47)
Michael Qualls (#51)
Arturas Gudaitis (#52)
Orlando's 2017 first round pick top-5 protected
$3M in cash
Memphis Grizzlies
Started with 25.
Ended up with:
Chicago's 2017 first round pick top-15 protected, if not conveyed by 2018, it turns into Chicago's 2019 and 2020 second round picks.
Started with 3, 35, 37, 47, 58, 60.
Ended up with:
Kristaps Porzingis (#5)
Jerian Grant (#21)
Michael Frazier (#47)
Michael Qualls (#51)
Arturas Gudaitis (#52)
Orlando's 2017 first round pick top-5 protected
$3M in cash
Memphis Grizzlies
Started with 25.
Ended up with:
Chicago's 2017 first round pick top-15 protected, if not conveyed by 2018, it turns into Chicago's 2019 and 2020 second round picks.
Doublea
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Good draft for the 76ers. I think it was a mistake to trade out of the draft though.
Doublea
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San Antonio Spurs:
Pick 26: Rashad Vaughn
He's the second youngest guy in the draft. The Spurs would be happy to be able to develop him and turn him into a future star.
Pick 55: Alan Williams
I really tried to trade up into the late 30's to get Christmas, Jaiteh, or one of the higher ranked euro prospects. I ended up just picking up Alan Williams who had a good showing at the combine.
Pick 26: Rashad Vaughn
He's the second youngest guy in the draft. The Spurs would be happy to be able to develop him and turn him into a future star.
Pick 55: Alan Williams
I really tried to trade up into the late 30's to get Christmas, Jaiteh, or one of the higher ranked euro prospects. I ended up just picking up Alan Williams who had a good showing at the combine.