He provides 1 kind of defense, rim protection, which we already have the best of in Gobert. I'd rather have another versatile defender in the mold of Favors, like Portis.
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He provides 1 kind of defense, rim protection, which we already have the best of in Gobert. I'd rather have another versatile defender in the mold of Favors, like Portis.
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I wouldn't be disappointed with this, depending on what other assets we picked up by moving down.
I've been pretty quiet on Portis, mainly because I think he'll have to work pretty damn hard to make an impact on offense (that is, beyond mere role player stuff). I think his fit on defense is good though, and that should earn him some time to develop.
Because I was talking about offense in that post....
And yeah, Turner isn't even as good at shooting as Bobby Portis is. Pretty sure Portis shot a higher % on midrange jump shots, 3 pointers, and around the rim.
He has shooting potential, because he has a nice stroke and has a nice FT%, which has shown to be an indicator of future shooting (but isn't always so).
No perimeter defense.
Is soft in the post and gets punished. Is he going to put on more weight and become even more lumbering and slow?
SO yeah, I think at this point in his career he is kind of a 1 dimensional rim defender who doesn't have good foot speed. Will his shot blocking even translate that well because of his lack of explosiveness and his lack of toughness?
Just hard to get excited about soft bigs who aren't athletic and have to be tought how to run properly and whose offensive game centers entirely around the word "potential" because he didn't produce in college against much smaller players.
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This is how I feel too
He had 56% TS% and production-wise was equivalent to Towns. I would hardly say he had bad production. He is raw, that's not news, but I think he has all the tools to succeed big time in the league. If you are going to compare him to Portis, compare their freshman seasons. Here's PER40 numbers:
Portis is a more perimeter oriented defender, but is nowhere near the shotblocker/rim protector. Turner's also much better rebounder. BTW rim protection and rebounding are two of the things that translates best from college ball to the pros, I don't know why you have doubts it will translate.
BTW I also think Turner is better prospect when it comes to shooting. His form is much better and smooth, as evidenced by free throw %s. I think there is a very good chance he will turn into a great shooter in the league.
I love both as prospects, Portis is probably more of what we need right now as versatility in our front court, but Turner for me is the clearcut better prospect long-term.
BTW, what brings them really close to eachother for me is Portis' passing and playmaking... I have a thing for bigs who can pass and think it's an underrated quality.
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He had 56% TS% and production-wise was equivalent to Towns. I would hardly say he had bad production. He is raw, that's not news, but I think he has all the tools to succeed big time in the league. If you are going to compare him to Portis, compare their freshman seasons. Here's PER40 numbers:
Portis is a more perimeter oriented defender, but is nowhere near the shotblocker/rim protector. Turner's also much better rebounder. BTW rim protection and rebounding are two of the things that translates best from college ball to the pros, I don't know why you have doubts it will translate.
BTW I also think Turner is better prospect when it comes to shooting. His form is much better and smooth, as evidenced by free throw %s. I think there is a very good chance he will turn into a great shooter in the league.
I love both as prospects, Portis is probably more of what we need right now as versatility in our front court, but Turner for me is the clearcut better prospect long-term.
BTW, what brings them really close to eachother for me is Portis' passing and playmaking... I have a thing for bigs who can pass and think it's an underrated quality.
Mostly because of his very good FT shooting.
Also, he played limited minutes compared to Portis and wasn't a #1 option, he had more of a support role to focus on rebounding. He definitely has better box-out fundamentals than Portis, but isn't as active on the offensive boards.