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Jingles is under-rated

Ingles becomes less valuable with the return of Burks and the hopeful increase of playmaking by Hood and Exum.

Sap still has value as our only wing with the ability and tenacity to really get after it defensively on a consistent basis.
 
Cy said:
Why? This would have been his first year working out with NBA coaches with access to NBA level facilities and training staff year round.
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Because you NEED that stuff in order to hit a three pointer. . .

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framer said:
Because you NEED that stuff in order to hit a three pointer. . .

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Because clearly this provides the same advantages as an NBA staff and facilities...

Clearly he has his best chance to do so now. Time will tell.
 
I like jingles and Millsap. There's no reason they can't be our fourth and fifth wings. I like jingles and Millsap. There's no reason they can't be our fourth and fifth wings. Even though jingles was a rookie I think the players look at him like a veteran. Just depends on if he receives a big offer from another team. If he doesn't cost too much I think the Jazz will definitely bring him back.
 
Watching the team live was really when my appreciation for Jingles improved leaps and bounds. During warmups, he was dinking off with the other players, making everyone laugh and keeping things loose. Same thing during timeouts. Also, EVERY time he was on the floor, when there was a break in the action, Jingles was over by Snyder getting instructions. It was clear that Joe was highly regarded by Quin. He was a pest on defense (similar to Dellavedova) and he ran the offense, knocking down a couple of huge buckets in the game I was at. He also is, by far and away, the team's best trash talker. He was jawing with opponents the whole game.

His stats were good as he found his role, but it's all the stuff that doesn't show up in the box score that really sets him apart. He's the quintessential "glue guy" and the Jazz will lose an important part of their developing culture if they let him go. I'm hopeful they can work out a reasonable extension with him and we get a few more years of Jingles in Utah.
 
Here's something I keep mentioning:

Ingles had a terrible body last year. And yet he was still effective. I think he could be very, very useful if he took better care of his body. Imagine if he could get just a half second quicker. Jump just an inch or two higher. Get in a little better shape.

I think he could be as useful as Burks if he fixed his body.
 
green said:
Here's something I keep mentioning:

Ingles had a terrible body last year. And yet he was still effective. I think he could be very, very useful if he took better care of his body. Imagine if he could get just a half second quicker. Jump just an inch or two higher. Get in a little better shape.

I think he could be as useful as Burks if he fixed his body.
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Agreed. I'm hoping that the hard working attitude of Gobert, Hayward and (hopefully) Exum in transforming their bodies inspires all of the Jazz players to follow suit.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Jingles has a better than average 3 pt'er already. I think his intangibles are better than Lilsaps. I don't see Lilsap being the leader that Jingles is shaping up to be. Lilsap does have athleticism over Joe though, and he is a better defender. I don't mind keeping them both for the roll they play, but if I had to choose I keep Jingles.
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I feel the same way. I think both players bring good stuff to the table but I'd give the edge to Joey, if just for that "cohesive intangible" stuff he does so well.
 
Cy said:
If Millsap develops a semi good 3pt shot he becomes better than Ingles IMO.
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I disagree. I think Jingles is better in every part of the game on the offensive side. While Millsap is the better defender. I'd keep Jingles over Millsap. Millsap would have to improve, passing, shooting, dribbling and driving to the basket to catch up with Jingles on offense. Also while I think Millsap is a better defender I don't think it's by much. I think Millsap's defense is overrated on here and that he gambles and fouls too much to be considered a great defender.
 
gregbroncs said:
I disagree. I think Jingles is better in every part of the game on the offensive side. While Millsap is the better defender. I'd keep Jingles over Millsap. Millsap would have to improve, passing, shooting, dribbling and driving to the basket to catch up with Jingles on offense. Also while I think Millsap is a better defender I don't think it's by much. I think Millsap's defense is overrated on here and that he gambles and fouls too much to be considered a great defender.
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We don't need offense when we have Burks/Hood/Hayward. We need a player with defensive tenacity.
 
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