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Jodi Arias Trial

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too long, didn't read.
sexalism..
reverse the sexes and there would be no sympathy for the murderer .

You should have read it. It would have helped your response.

Of course sex has a major factor in this.

If Travis was named Juan or black, I doubt Arizonans would have such a wonderful opinion of him.

Why would a pretty woman go to such an extreme to kill a man? She was (baptized) into the Mormon church. She easily could have gone to any singles ward in Mesa or Yreka and found plenty of prospects.
Why would a "spiritual" returned missionary complain about being stalked by this girl (and claim that he wanted to end things with her) and then send x rated text messages to her at 2:00am? If you know that the person you are dating still likes you, thee absolute worst thing you can do is give them hope that things might continue. By sending her romantic messages and by continuing to sleep with her, he continued to give her hope that things might work out. Hard to end things with someone if you continue to sleep with them.
 
Agreed. That or put an addition 150lbs on Arias and we'd all be screaming for her blood.

But isn't that one of the reasons why this trial is so fascinating to most of America?

She isn't some fat ugly loser. He isn't some closed 50+ year old bus driver who kept women in his basement for decades.

Both seemed like they were attractive, talented, intelligent, and social people.

What drove her to do commit such a horrific act? Why was he such an ***? You folks realize that he was a RM, right? He baptized her into the LDS religion. He claimed that he wanted stuff like an "eternal family." So he desires that yet asks Jodi to give him oral pleasure with poprocks stuffed in her mouth? I don't think you need to be an expert on the LDS religion to know that something isn't right here.

To me, we will never know his side (unfortunately). Because it's "horrible" to speak "ill" of the dead. In reality, what the hell is a temple endowed returned missionary doing essentially "living with" his girlfriend? So sex it up 6 days of the week as freaky Shawn Kemp but show up on Sunday as Peter Priesthood? HUH? And then act surprised when this girl just "can't" get over you?

Then, consider some of the other "weird" things that might or might not be true. The night he baptizes her he performs anal on her (allegedly)? Ummmm....

Of course, Travis was just an angel... And when taking those shower shots before being stabbed, he was totally innocent...

Which is why I feel for both of them. I honestly think in many cases, he wasn't necessarily a dirt bag (although, he would definitely be a dirt bag if just half the stuff Jodi has said were true). I think he got caught up into things. Maybe he had a massive porn addiction? Maybe he really wanted to do some of those "churchy" things and repent and get married in the LDS temple, but just couldn't get over the hump? Maybe he really did love Jodi but the love became just too corrupted and revolved too much around gratification?

I feel for her. Yes... She had a screw loose. But most women I know do. He baptized her. As a former LDS missionary, that is a special connection. You don't forget who baptized you and those who you baptize will never forget you. Multiply that by 100 because they were romantic. I don't think she's crazy. I don't think she's actually a horrible person. I think anyone who has been in an abusive relationship can relate to some of things that she did (other than the whole murder thing)...

I just really cannot wrap my head around degrading someone who you baptized. Especially if it was later that night. I think for most Christians, baptism is typically one of the most spiritual experiences of your life.
 
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I just wonder...

What would have happened?

If he had been that "good friend" who baptized her? Instead of pop rocks, x-rated texts, and immorality, he helped her integrate into the new religion? Would they still be friends today? Would she have stayed active? Would they have gotten married?
If he had not led her on, he'd still be alive today.
If she had gotten over him and told him to keep his fantasies to himself, would that have rocked his world enough to finally wake up and be the valiant priesthood holder everyone "thought" he was? She would have avoided that whole murder thing. She'd have her freedom.

Had he just done the right thing, he could have a life... Family... Career... Today.
Had she done the right thing and not killed him, she could have had all those things today.

In this case, there are no winners or losers.

I feel bad for both of them.
 
Dude wanted the best both worlds - wanted to be a good Mormon boy to the world while having his little freak on the side. All while tearing her apart to his friends. Only problem is he was messing with a ticking time bomb.

No one deserved what happened to him but they were both ****s
 
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