Jody Genessy trolls Locke

[jumpin bean]

Jumping Bean, I am very suprised you like Kanter more than Faves or atleast the Kanter Gobert Combo more than the Faves Gobert combo.

1-Favors is an above average Rim Protector. Kanter is 2nd to last in rim protection.

2-Favors has the 13th best Player Efficiency Rating (PER) in the League. Dont think Kanter is even in top 100.

3-Favors is an Okay passer for a big man and actually passes. Kanter is an unmidigated dumpster fire as a passer and does not pass.

4-Favors wants to be here. Kanter does not want to be here.

5- Favors currently shoots a better % than Kanter on his mid range J.

I could go on.

I don't trust Favors to show up consistently on offense,foul trouble or missing clutch free throws or just not scoring enough.we have a better D with gobert and favors but I don't know if that duo will score enough points against teams consistently to get victories.I hope I am wrong.

 

[Batman]

I don't trust Favors to show up consistently on offense,foul trouble or missing clutch free throws or just not scoring enough.we have a better D with gobert and favors but I don't know if that duo will score enough points against teams consistently to get victories.I hope I am wrong.

I must disagree with your assertion that Faves is unreliable on the offensive end. Or at the very least, more unreliable than Kanter. Consider this:

Favors is averaging 16 points a game to Kanter 14.

Favors is shooting a much better percentage than Kanter.

It seems your concern is that you don't trust Faves to be assertive enough to take a sufficient amount of shots to score. He usually has a sneaky and quiet good games. I would submit that Favors will take more shots with Kanter gone and this should not be an issue.

Frankly, with Faves averaging 16 points a game, I don't really understand your argument, seeing he puts up more points more efficiently than Kanter. We're I not on my phone I'd do the research and also add that Favors per 36 minutes are better that Kanter's too.

Favors is gonna be just fine offensively and I expect him to improve. And I absolutely expect him to improve his free throw shooting too. He's got the 17th highest PER in the league, bro. He's shooting the 3rd highest percentage in the restricted area in the entire league. His FG% is very good. Give him some credit my man.

 

[Batman]

Just so you know, Locke is definitely not amazing with analytics. What he does with the numbers and what conclusions he makes because of them is complete bastardization of advanced statistics.

I must disagree at least in part. Locke is pretty good at analyzing the games through analytics and he often calls bad trades, which are perceived as good trades, through analytics. He's not always right, but he hits on them pretty often.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Thanks. I stop by and at least browse, but I'll try to post more when I'm not just defending myself.

I know that Kanter's agent has been pushing for a trade for years. The Jazz hoped to make it work out, but were more aggressive lately (not sure exacts).

I thought the Jazz were put in a tough position by Kanter opening up about wanting to be traded. And considering he's a young, talented big, I just don't think they got very much in return for him. A late first-round pick and a second isn't anything to write home about.

My initial reaction is that this delays the rebuild. He was supposed to be a cornerstone, an original member of the #CoreFour. Obviously, Rudy's emergence helps soften the blow. I like that Booker will get more run too. I just think they need another center on the roster to spell the starters.

Mostly, though, Kanter didn't want to be here, so the Jazz got as much for him as they could. Might be addition by subtraction (and judging Friday's results, wow).

I really get bugged when I hear that missing on Kanter "delays the rebuild". Does it suck to miss on the #3 overall pick? Of course, but what allowed Utah to bite the bullet on Kanter was the fact that they picked Gobert #27 overall, he developed light years ahead of Kanter, and now would be considered a top 3 pick if you could have a draft do-over. If we're gonna complain about taking a step back with Kanter, we also better be ready to aknowledge that we took a step forward with Gobert. And while our assets in the Kanter deal might not be dazzling, if Lindsay turns them into anything and Gobert continues on his trajectory, this rebuild has not hit a speed bump.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I really get bugged when I hear that missing on Kanter "delays the rebuild". Does it suck to miss on the #3 overall pick? Of course, but what allowed Utah to bite the bullet on Kanter was the fact that they picked Gobert #27 overall, he developed light years ahead of Kanter, and now would be considered a top 3 pick if you could have a draft do-over. If we're gonna complain about taking a step back with Kanter, we also better be ready to aknowledge that we took a step forward with Gobert. And while our assets in the Kanter deal might not be dazzling, if Lindsay turns them into anything and Gobert continues on his trajectory, this rebuild has not hit a speed bump.

AS hard as it may be to let Kanter go, a team that wants to move from bad to good or from good to great is always looking to replace their weaker links if/when they can. There are limited resources (cap dollars). As Lindsey said, not everyone can be paid $10M. I think the Jazz now have 3 great players in place in Hayward, Favors and Gobert. Well, Rudy still needs to improve a lot, but he's certainly shown a huge upward trajectory. Burks was fairly solid. Exum? Who knows. Simply didn't have the luxury of paying Kanter as a premium starter (Hayward-level money) when he's a marginal starter. If Exum hasn't improved that much in 4 years and we've drafted a PG who clearly is better, I'd say do the same.

It doesn't set a team back to find a player who is better. Over the course of several years you ARE going to lose some of your draft picks - whether it's by your choice or theirs.

 

[hhhhkau]

I must disagree at least in part. Locke is pretty good at analyzing the games through analytics and he often calls bad trades, which are perceived as good trades, through analytics. He's not always right, but he hits on them pretty often.

He's at the very least a complete workaholic when it comes to numbers and exploring advanced stats. The fact that he has the ear of guys like Kevin Pelton and Nate Duncan shows that he's not a buffoon on that front.

He's got a knack for mangling the english language, though. That and audio production.

 

[enchilada_style]

Don't go Jody. Just stay. Forever.

 

[Fishsticks]

I really get bugged when I hear that missing on Kanter "delays the rebuild". Does it suck to miss on the #3 overall pick? Of course, but what allowed Utah to bite the bullet on Kanter was the fact that they picked Gobert #27 overall, he developed light years ahead of Kanter, and now would be considered a top 3 pick if you could have a draft do-over. If we're gonna complain about taking a step back with Kanter, we also better be ready to aknowledge that we took a step forward with Gobert. And while our assets in the Kanter deal might not be dazzling, if Lindsay turns them into anything and Gobert continues on his trajectory, this rebuild has not hit a speed bump.

Great post.

 

[Fishsticks]

He's at the very least a complete workaholic when it comes to numbers and exploring advanced stats. The fact that he has the ear of guys like Kevin Pelton and Nate Duncan shows that he's not a buffoon on that front.

He's got a knack for mangling the english language, though. That and audio production.

The problem with Locke is that he was not educated in analytics. All the people he strives to be are. Therefore he hacks his way through the science and manipulates the numbers to achieve whatever point he is trying to make.

 

[Fishsticks]

That said I am huge fan of his. Very insightful and when he is being honest does a great job.

 

[Deleted member 848]

The problem with Locke is that he was not educated in analytics. All the people he strives to be are. Therefore he hacks his way through the science and manipulates the numbers to achieve whatever point he is trying to make.

I don't think one needs to be too educated with analytics in order to understand them-- it's just important to present them as bias-free as possible.

Locke has trouble with this. The dude goes out of his way, time and time again, to toe the company line.


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[Deleted member 848]

That said I am huge fan of his. Very insightful and when he is being honest does a great job.

Same. It's a bummer, because he does so damn much for our fanbase. He lives and breathes basketball.


With that said, some of his tweets simply hurt his credibility. It's a bummer. With that said, there is still good info he presents-- and because of that, I still follow him on Twitter.


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