Joe Ingles: Article on Son's Autism Diagnosis

[Getting Traded]

Yup, we probably never landed on the moon and the world is flat because NASA is controlling the world.

This is ridiculous retort that doesn't respond to what I have said. Just a red herring argument. There is more to it than the original article that was "discredited."

Here's some facts you should consider:

Recent research examined health outcomes following the introduction of diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis (DTP) and oral polio vaccine in Guinea-Bissau, which took place in the early 1980s. DTP vaccine was associated with fivefold higher mortality than being unvaccinated. According to the authors, “All currently available evidence suggests that DTP vaccine may kill more children from other causes than it saves from diphtheria, tetanus or pertussis”

Both the U.S. Congress and the Supreme Court have concluded that government licensed vaccines are "unavoidably unsafe.” Vaccines also have the highest number of recalls of any drug

One in 6 American children has a developmental disability, which includes ADD, ADHD, autism, learning disabilities, mental disabilities, seizures and stammering. Many of these are also listed or known side effects of vaccines.

Fifty-four percent of children have a diagnosed chronic illness, including asthma, chronic ear infections, diabetes, food and/or environmental allergies and epilepsy. This list also mirrors many of the acknowledged side effects of vaccines, and the rise in prevalence of these diseases parallel the rise in required vaccines

 

[Getting Traded]

We sell US Treasury bonds. They are bought by pension funds, foreign governments, etc.

We also borrow money from the Fed. Do you even know what the Fed is -- it's a consortium of private banks who set the interest rate from which the government borrows money from them.

 

[Getting Traded]

It's not that you interoperate the results differently, it's that the science behind your "facts" is skewed and you are a danger to other people.

Can you substantiate with links to studies that my facts are skewed? I don't even know what facts you are talking about. You need to learn how to write to support your position better. How about coming to my class for lessons.

 

[bigb]

Yet another thread gone to complete ****. Thanks fellas!

 

[Getting Traded]

Yet another thread gone to complete ****. Thanks fellas!

Watch this and tell me he is ignorant too:

 

[Getting Traded]

That is exactly the sort of argument I would expect from a flat-earther, creationist, or someone who claims there are no diseases caused by germs.



Thank you for acknowledging that my position was indeed the most reliable, most explanatory, and best supported type of knowledge that science has: a theory. Gravitation is a theory. That electricity results from the flow of electrons is a theory. The blood carrying oxygen to other parts of the body is a theory. Multiple types and causes of cancer is a theory.



Please describe what a "cure" for a gene transcription error would consist of. Be detailed.

Sorry, I was just kidding. No one thinks you have the intelligence, expertise, or understanding to know what a cure would consist it, and I'm not sure if you have the intelligence, expertise, or understanding to know what "gene transcription error" means.



Yes, all 0g of mercury and heavy metals present in vaccines are processed by the liver. It's basic math. 0 * 100% = 0.

You are so smug. All your arguments are those of a sophist. All surface and twisting of words with absolutely nothing to support your point. Gene Transcription Error? Since when did anyone declare that to be the cause of cancer? That is just a theory, but most of the evidence is starting to lean towards the fact that cancer is a metabolic disease and alternative treatment specialists are using diet and supplements, herbs, detox, fasting, cannabis, and other treatments to cure it without the carcinogenic effects of radiation and chemo.

 

[footawn]

So one person’s internet research and a video of a charismatic guy at a cancer conspiracy conference >>> what literally ALL the doctors say.

Duly noted.

 

[Getting Traded]

So one person’s internet research and a video of a charismatic guy at a cancer conspiracy conference >>> what literally ALL the doctors say.

Duly noted.

The point I'm making is that you need to exercise caution with vaccines because they aren't completely safe as most doctors would have you believe. Why people can't get that and act as if I say that vaccines are bad is because they aren't attacking what I'm saying but attacking me personally. I haven't researched it thoroughly. But I always say where there's smoke, there's fire, and we should listen to the skeptics before rejecting them out of hand because someone, the drug companies who make lots of money from vaccines, say it isn't true.

 

[Kyoto]

This is ridiculous retort that doesn't respond to what I have said. Just a red herring argument. There is more to it than the original article that was "discredited."

Here's some facts you should consider:

Recent research examined health outcomes following the introduction of diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis (DTP) and oral polio vaccine in Guinea-Bissau, which took place in the early 1980s. DTP vaccine was associated with fivefold higher mortality than being unvaccinated. According to the authors, “All currently available evidence suggests that DTP vaccine may kill more children from other causes than it saves from diphtheria, tetanus or pertussis”

Both the U.S. Congress and the Supreme Court have concluded that government licensed vaccines are "unavoidably unsafe.” Vaccines also have the highest number of recalls of any drug

One in 6 American children has a developmental disability, which includes ADD, ADHD, autism, learning disabilities, mental disabilities, seizures and stammering. Many of these are also listed or known side effects of vaccines.

Fifty-four percent of children have a diagnosed chronic illness, including asthma, chronic ear infections, diabetes, food and/or environmental allergies and epilepsy. This list also mirrors many of the acknowledged side effects of vaccines, and the rise in prevalence of these diseases parallel the rise in required vaccines

Hmmm

 

[Sandman822]

The point I'm making is that you need to exercise caution with vaccines because they aren't completely safe as most doctors would have you believe. Why people can't get that and act as if I say that vaccines are bad is because they aren't attacking what I'm saying but attacking me personally. I haven't researched it thoroughly. But I always say where there's smoke, there's fire, and we should listen to the skeptics before rejecting them out of hand because someone, the drug companies who make lots of money from vaccines, say it isn't true.

There's literally zero medications in the world that are considered 100% safe, but vaccinations are about as safe as you can get and the chances of someone dying from a complication of a vaccination are significantly smaller than other things most people do on a day to day basis like drive a car (dying in car crash) or eating food (dying from food poisoning), and the benefits of said medications when used properly vastly outweigh the potential side effects which is why patients are often given medication even if there are some negative side effects.

Doctors will call medications or treatments like vaccinations "safe", but you'd be hard pressed to find a doctor that would readily say that they are "completely safe" because of the minute risk of something happening. Semantics are important here, and you're trying to paint a picture of all doctors in the world calling things like vaccinations "completely safe" implying a 100% safety rate and how that's not true and people are risking their health on vaccinations when in reality it's probably more like 99.9999% safe and it's much rarer an occurance of someone dying from a flu shot than many other risks that human populations accept on a day to day basis as life.

 

[Getting Traded]

There's literally zero medications in the world that are considered 100% safe, but vaccinations are about as safe as you can get and the chances of someone dying from a complication of a vaccination are significantly smaller than other things most people do on a day to day basis like drive a car (dying in car crash) or eating food (dying from food poisoning), and the benefits of said medications when used properly vastly outweigh the potential side effects which is why patients are often given medication even if there are some negative side effects.

Doctors will call medications or treatments like vaccinations "safe", but you'd be hard pressed to find a doctor that would readily say that they are "completely safe" because of the minute risk of something happening. Semantics are important here, and you're trying to paint a picture of all doctors in the world calling things like vaccinations "completely safe" implying a 100% safety rate and how that's not true and people are risking their health on vaccinations when in reality it's probably more like 99.9999% safe and it's much rarer an occurance of someone dying from a flu shot than many other risks that human populations accept on a day to day basis as life.

Watch the video Sandman and see if you still think they are 99.999 % safe. I think he raises legitimate concerns. Doctors used to say that cigarettes were good for you too.

 

[Sandman822]

Watch the video Sandman and see if you still think they are 99.999 % safe. I think he raises legitimate concerns. Doctors used to say that cigarettes were good for you too.

Until there's imperical evidence to suggest otherwise I'm going to go with science on this one, but thank you. I checked out the study you posted about higher mortality rates for vaccinated babies in Africa, there are a number of questionable decisions/factors made in the study but overall the study was more about the scheduling of vaccinations in infants rather than the safety of the vaccinations themselves.