Jon Stewart returning to host the Daily Show
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Did you learn anything? Did the information penetrate? At the close of the segment, starting around the @15:10 point, Jon Stewart talked about the real causes. What he said was almost exactly what I wrote.
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“It is like a desert and someone decided to build a city there. A densely populated, albeit beautify city, in the middle of it”
-Jon Stewart
“Go forward several centuries and the hillsides are now housing developments”
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“…created the dangerous conditions that made a tragedy like this almost inevitable.”
-Jon Stewart
“[The fires there] are geographic inevitability.”
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“We are humans. We build [stuff] in difficult areas on the belief that we will figure out how to subdue god and nature.”
-Jon Stewart
“Where you get into trouble is when you have buildings in the geographic area of inevitable fire and you slash the fire suppression infrastructure. It isn't climate change. It is climate as it has always been forever in that geographic area, and blame for the burning buildings is to the cutting of the ability to hold back nature from doing what it has always done.”
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Nothing I wrote and nothing Jon Stewart said was pathetic extremist Right wing apologism. It was a set of facts intended to inform by providing a context to events. If Jon Stewart is the source for the exact same information, then at least there is someone who can communicate it.
Red
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I don’t know. I haven’t watched it yet. Go back to school, why don’t you….did you know political fallout comes and goes? Let it fall where it may… Did I tell you I was interested in underlying causes? Yeah, I told you that.
“But there are bigger—far bigger—factors at play in the disaster, factors that have less to do with local politics and institutional preparedness and more to do with the existential matter of a planet grown sickly from climate change. A crisis that is feeding more and bigger storms and causing more and greater destruction—destruction that lawmakers and other leaders, here and around the world, still seem unable to muster the will to address. Here is the reality: The very metabolism of the Earth has been thrown off by an atmosphere choking on greenhouse gasses, and it will take more than political bickering to set things right. Another reality: Fixing the problem first requires understanding—and, even more fundamentally, accepting—the science. Only then can we implement policies and put in place protocols that help us both reduce the likelihood of more such crises and minimize the death and destruction when they ultimately do occur”
L.A. Fires Show the Reality of a World with 1.5°C of Warming
The planet crosses an important temperature threshold while wildfires ravage southern California.
Climate Change A Factor In Unprecedented LA Fires
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Al-O-Meter
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Clearly you aren't. You didn't even bother to watch the material you posted.
It genuinely seems the only supposed experts you will listen to are one who tell you everything is climate change or everything is Christian nationalist fascism. I can see through the way you write that you didn't always used to be that way. There was a time when you did take in information from a broad swath of sources. Why not now? Why did you stop?
In your own posted video, I've given you the time code to go straight to the information if you don't want to sit though the whole clip. You seem to find Jon Stewart an acceptable source. Why not open yourself up to learn something new?
I can give you a video from a scientist who breaks it all down. If you are genuinely interested in underlying causes, these are it.
Sadly, I know you won't watch it. I am being honest when I say that it makes me sad.
Al-O-Meter
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMG-ZEG_VU4
By executive order, it has been renamed "Martin Luther Trump Day"
Red
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Martin Luther King trumps Trump every day…
Al-O-Meter
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Johnette Napalitano was a powerhouse fronting Concrete Blonde. I don't know that she is in my top-3 of 1990's female vocalists, but wow what a talent. The quality of the recording isn't that great but one of my favorite of her live performances with this one at the Jon Stewart show in 1993, with a 29-year old Jon Stewart and his friend Denis Leary.
Al-O-Meter
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Outstanding opening bit from Jon Stewart this week. It is non-stop poking fun at the political left for their TDS.
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Mongoose
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Why has California failed to prepare for these climate change disasters? They’ve been ringing that bell for decades yet they’ve done absolutely nothing to prepare? Completely inept leadership in that state.
Red
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One Californian’s opinion….
Opinion: Los Angeles Fires Began on Federal Lands, So Why Is GOP Blaming California?
Both of the big Los Angeles fires started on federally managed land. Instead of blaming California, the Trump administration should follow through with disaster aid and make a massive fire safety investment in our state's public lands.
timesofsandiego.com
The blaze that turned Altadena to ash burned through the Angeles National Forest, managed by the U.S. Forest Service, which is part of the United States (you again!) Department of Agriculture.
Let’s be clear: Our firelands are actually your firelands. And you’ve managed your California land so poorly for so long — suppressing fire instead of managing it, letting fuels accumulate, providing insufficient personnel to handle our national parks, forests, wilderness, and recreation areas — that you’ve helped turn California into a tinderbox.
When you and your leadership — President Trump, House Speaker Mike Johnson, members of Congress — blame California’s land management for our fires, you aren’t just lying or playing dirty politics. You’re trying to shift blame.
And we can see through you and your bad faith.
Now, if you had any honor — which you don’t, but let’s just say you did for the sake of argument — you wouldn’t just provide us with all the disaster aid we need, right now. You’d announce that you were going to make major new investments in federal land management in California and across the country. After all, you own more than a quarter of all the land in the United States.
Instead, you are shamelessly working to make your land management even worse.
Project 2025, the governing blueprint devised by the leaders of the new administration, outlines deep cuts to the already-diminished number of federal workers, which would exacerbate understaffing and poor management on federal lands. The cuts are now beginning, with a federal hiring and funding freeze preventing the U.S. Department of Agriculture and other federal agencies from filling positions, including wildland firefighting roles, and putting public lands projects in jeopardy. Project 2025 also calls for boosting the number of gas and mining leases, reducing prescribed burning, and increasing logging — all measures which will make public lands more fire-prone and less resilient.
You propose to do all this, while your administration, run by climate deniers, rolls back green energy infrastructure and investment, and encourages more climate-altering burning of fossil fuels.
You and your current regime better hope hell isn’t hotter than our mega-fires.
Mongoose
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So it’s the fault of the federal government that has been run by democrats 12 of the last 16 years?One Californian’s opinion….
Opinion: Los Angeles Fires Began on Federal Lands, So Why Is GOP Blaming California?
Both of the big Los Angeles fires started on federally managed land. Instead of blaming California, the Trump administration should follow through with disaster aid and make a massive fire safety investment in our state's public lands.
The blaze that turned Altadena to ash burned through the Angeles National Forest, managed by the U.S. Forest Service, which is part of the United States (you again!) Department of Agriculture.
Let’s be clear: Our firelands are actually your firelands. And you’ve managed your California land so poorly for so long — suppressing fire instead of managing it, letting fuels accumulate, providing insufficient personnel to handle our national parks, forests, wilderness, and recreation areas — that you’ve helped turn California into a tinderbox.
When you and your leadership — President Trump, House Speaker Mike Johnson, members of Congress — blame California’s land management for our fires, you aren’t just lying or playing dirty politics. You’re trying to shift blame.
And we can see through you and your bad faith.
Now, if you had any honor — which you don’t, but let’s just say you did for the sake of argument — you wouldn’t just provide us with all the disaster aid we need, right now. You’d announce that you were going to make major new investments in federal land management in California and across the country. After all, you own more than a quarter of all the land in the United States.
Instead, you are shamelessly working to make your land management even worse.
Project 2025, the governing blueprint devised by the leaders of the new administration, outlines deep cuts to the already-diminished number of federal workers, which would exacerbate understaffing and poor management on federal lands. The cuts are now beginning, with a federal hiring and funding freeze preventing the U.S. Department of Agriculture and other federal agencies from filling positions, including wildland firefighting roles, and putting public lands projects in jeopardy. Project 2025 also calls for boosting the number of gas and mining leases, reducing prescribed burning, and increasing logging — all measures which will make public lands more fire-prone and less resilient.
You propose to do all this, while your administration, run by climate deniers, rolls back green energy infrastructure and investment, and encourages more climate-altering burning of fossil fuels.
You and your current regime better hope hell isn’t hotter than our mega-fires.