[Jones]BREAKING: Jazz willing to engage Celtics in S&T talks: But Gordon Hayward must agree

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Nobody will give him that.

Unless there is some team that has a lot of extra late first round picks from other teams.

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[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

Since Spurs signed Gay, does that perhaps make them less likely to do a deal with Ainge (for Crowder, Bradley, Smart)?

Indiana and Chicago won't play. The Lakers are about as likely as the Globetrotters.

I think it comes down to Denver and Phoenix.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Aigne probably wants two first round picks

The rumor that came out said predraft Ainge wanted a late lottery pick and a young player for Crowder.

I would guess he is trying to look for the same again.

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[Isaiah 1:13]

For me it's well done DL for not panicking and doing something just for the sake of doing something. To me the writing was on the wall when I saw DL walking around doing interviews at SL rather than in the war room hashing out trade details.


I'd rather we stand pat and build around Exum, Hood, Mitchell, Gobert than get someone out of a knee jerk reaction to losing Hayward.

Well I'm glad to see you're still so sanguine about everything when DL and the rest of the organization has been behind the curve with Hayward for like forever. Now he fritters away valuable time begging with Boston to give us something back like that dog on the tracks that loses his whole head looking for his shorn tail. Sorry, not satisfied going back to square one when we already have some excellent pieces in place and were regarded as the model of team development last year.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Indiana and Chicago won't play. The Lakers are about as likely as the Globetrotters.

I think it comes down to Denver and Phoenix.

Any team that has non guaranteed contracts and draft picks has as good of an offer as the Jazz.

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[Ron Mexico]

I don't think Denver has room. They are at 92 million and plumlee has a cap hold of 7 million. I guess maybe they let that go and they can take back Crowder. I don't see them offering a pick though for him. He is kind of redundant with Chandler.

I don't know though, I guess Crowder can play pf, so I guess he fits their plan.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

Any team that has non guaranteed contracts and draft picks has as good of an offer as the Jazz.

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Ok. I thought there were limited teams that had the cap space to absorb his contract.

Edit: How many have the cap space when their non-guaranteed contracts are taken into account?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The rumor that came out said predraft Ainge wanted a late lottery pick and a young player for Crowder.

I would guess he is trying to look for the same again.

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And yet he still has crowder... so he can ask all he wants but clearly the price was too steep then and now the asset has lower value because people know something has to go.

The market for crowder should be robust but he's in an awkward place. They need no salary back... the good teams are kinda tapped out salary wise. Bottom feeders have space but if they are giving a protected pick when will it convey.

I wonder what we offered. I think a lotto protected pick gets it done but teams do weird stuff.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't think Denver has room. They are at 92 million and plumlee has a cap hold of 7 million. I guess maybe they let that go and they can take back Crowder. I don't see them offering a pick though for him. He is kind of redundant with Chandler.

I don't know though, I guess Crowder can play pf, so I guess he fits their plan.

They have 8000 power forwards.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ok. I thought there were limited teams that had the cap space to absorb his contract.

Edit: How many have the cap space when their non-guaranteed contracts are taken into account?

There are 18 teams who have non guaranteed contracts to cover Crowders salary.

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[Cappy_Smurf]

wow. Well, I guess I've gotten so jammed up in the details that I'm confused. This does not sound at all like the truth.

Feel free to give your version. Smart will be a RFA next year while Bradley will be UFA. Crowder is signed for 3 years at less than 8 per. Ainge might not get much value for Smart or Bradley, but there are certainly teams that would give a 2nd for them. Crowder is the only one that should be a guaranteed 1st rounder coming back.

Anybody who wants Crowder is going to have to pay. No point in giving that asset away when you have other options to clear cap.

But like I said, feel free to tell me where you think I am wrong.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And yet he still has crowder... so he can ask all he wants but clearly the price was too steep then and now the asset has lower value because people know something has to go.

The market for crowder should be robust but he's in an awkward place. They need no salary back... the good teams are kinda tapped out salary wise. Bottom feeders have space but if they are giving a protected pick when will it convey.

I wonder what we offered. I think a lotto protected pick gets it done but teams do weird stuff.

I'm sure it is robust... Its why we don't have Crowder right now.

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