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[Jones]BREAKING: Jazz willing to engage Celtics in S&T talks: But Gordon Hayward must agree

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Bawse Dawg said:
We need to consider the fact that replacing 70% of Haywards production for 1/5 the price would be HUGE. Ainge can't give him up for nothing but all four parties are probably motivated to make a deal. I'm sure Ainge would take less than market value to appease all sides. So if we have to give a protected pick or something I think it's well worth it. Even if we don't like the idea of handing over even more to Boston.
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I would call it more like 50%, but sure, yeah.
 
Hedda Gambler said:
Really? Can you think of a single good NBA-starter who would not be annoyed with his team if they two years in a row used the number 3 pick in the draft to pick someone who played his position and then traded for a player who everyone thinks is better?
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They are drafting wings because wings are the most valuable players and you can play 3 of them at a time.....
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Jae Crower is getting traded, for sure. It's just probably not to us. I dont think he is the kind of guy you want on your team if he is angry at the team.
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He might be traded to us. We should offer a first round pick for him. Maybe a first and a second. He's on an amazing contract. It would seriously soften Heywood's betrayal.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I would call it more like 50%, but sure, yeah.
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I remember in the 2015-16 season lots of people had Crowder>Hayward. Obviously that seems silly now but he did play all season with fans who wanted him replaced and I bet he'd be motivated to show everyone that he can be as good as Hayward (even if he can't)

Honestly at that price he's a great pickup, put whatever percentage you want on it.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
We need to consider the fact that replacing 70% of Haywards production for 1/5 the price would be HUGE. Ainge can't give him up for nothing but all four parties are probably motivated to make a deal. I'm sure Ainge would take less than market value to appease all sides. So if we have to give a protected pick or something I think it's well worth it. Even if we don't like the idea of handing over even more to Boston.
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We don't need to even protect the pick. We're most likely making the playoffs, with or without Jae. Probably be pushing for the 4th seed with him. Do a top 3 protection in case we have another injury riddled season and win the lottery.
 
Siro said:
We don't need to even protect the pick. We're most likely making the playoffs, with or without Jae. Probably be pushing for the 4th seed with him. Do a top 3 protection in case we have another injury riddled season and win the lottery.
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I'd lottery protect the **** out of it. We are one Gobert injury away from top 5. The west is incredibly stacked, I'm confident in our team next year. But **** can happen. We are not in a position to give away lottery picks if it comes to that.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
I remember in the 2015-16 season lots of people had Crowder>Hayward. Obviously that seems silly now but he did play all season with fans who wanted him replaced and I bet he'd be motivated to show everyone that he can be as good as Hayward (even if he can't)

Honestly at that price he's a great pickup, put whatever percentage you want on it.
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Nah, he'd replace more than 50% of Haywood's production.

According to the model at Silver's website, Jae is 6.6 wins above replacement.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/jae-crowder/

Haywood is 7.6

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/gordon-hayward/

Their advanced stats aren't that far apart, and Crowder would have a bigger role here.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
I'd lottery protect the **** out of it. We are one Gobert injury away from top 5. The west is incredibly stacked, I'm confident in our team next year. But **** can happen. We are not in a position to give away lottery picks if it comes to that.
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I didn't consider a season-ending injury to Gobert. But either way, I don't think getting Crowder is trivial. It would be a major coup for the Jazz.
 
Siro said:
We don't need to even protect the pick. We're most likely making the playoffs, with or without Jae. Probably be pushing for the 4th seed with him. Do a top 3 protection in case we have another injury riddled season and win the lottery.
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Dude, seriously? What happens if Gobert goes down? Are you willing to take the risk of handing Danny ****ing Ainge the 8th pick in the draft next year?
 
Hedda Gambler said:
Dude, seriously? What happens if Gobert goes down? Are you willing to take the risk of handing Danny ****ing Ainge the 8th pick in the draft next year?
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Like I said, I didn't think that through. Offer a lottery protected pick and a second round pick.
 
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