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[Jones]BREAKING: Jazz willing to engage Celtics in S&T talks: But Gordon Hayward must agree

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The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I still think that the Jazz are in a strong position here. Boston has to get rid of a lot of guys. They get under the cap enough to actually sign Gordon. He already took a pay reduction to go to Boston so I can't imagine he wants to haggle at this point.

The issue here is straightforward. Can the Celtics trade Crowder, smart, and bradley to another team for cap space AND get something in return more than a 2nd round pick or not? I don't know what team would do that besides the Nets who would also have to cut players currently on their roster and pay them. So, I doubt that the Celtics have many options other than just tearing up 7 player's contracts and paying for them themselves above and beyond trading for a second round pick.
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I don't know why you think they need to move all three. They don't. One will suffice.
 
The Jazz are definitely not in a strong position. The position they are in is wait for Boston to exhaust every other option they have and hope it works out for them. They literally cant do anything other than wait on Boston. That isn't a position of strength.
 
It would be nice to see something get done before the Jazz beat the piss out of the Celtics in Summer League as Ainge's ego will no doubt be bruised.
 
Siro said:
I don't know why you think they need to move all three. They don't. One will suffice.
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They really only need to move 1 guy, and need to save only about 300K in what they take back, so they could trade any one of them for a player that makes slightly less, and still be able to sign Hayward without Jazz doing a sign and trade.
 
We could really use a youngish (25 or under?) stretch 4 who has some balls. A stretch 4 a little bigger than Jae. Does such a thing exist?
 
Scott Cooper is the guy that said that he thought DL might be able to get a pick. They are replaying the interview on 1280 right now
 
sgjazzfan said:
They really only need to move 1 guy, and need to save only about 300K in what they take back, so they could trade any one of them for a player that makes slightly less, and still be able to sign Hayward without Jazz doing a sign and trade.
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This all assumes that they also move Rozier and most of their other second level contracts as well. Moving Rozier is just the START of the process. The Jazz would have little interest I would imagine. They would rather have the dollars on the trade exception.
 
sgjazzfan said:
I personally would like to kinda rebuild, but that went out the window with trading for Rubio and re-signing Ingles. I would love to see Exum, Mitchell, Hood, ?, Gobert starting lineup to see what we have in Hood/Exum before they need to be resigned. Likely a pretty good pick next year coming in the east as well. Trade Joe Johnson and Favors and get a young PF somehow. Trade for some contracts and get a few more picks as well.

Jazz won't do that though, so I'm all for getting Crowder to fill the minor hole at SF (JJ is backup PF to Favors). I think Jazz could be a playoff team, maybe even a 5 seed this year if healthy with improvement from Exum, consistency from Hood, and a healthy Favors (I think he could be the biggest benefactor of Rubio, I loved seeing him and Ingles work together in the playoffs).
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Good post. I'd prefer to re-build as well but agree it's highly unlikely...especially when we already have a fairly competitive roster as is. I just don't see us eventually plateauing around a 2nd rd exit.

Personally, I hope we trade Rubio, Hood (due to upcoming RFA), Ingles (sucks but it's business), JJ, Favors & build around Exum/Mitchell/Gobert + acquired assets/future draft picks. I would even consider trading Gobert for a godfather offer. I know this won't happen but I see no other approach that could potentially lead to a championship (even if unlikely).
 
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