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Game Thread Jun 16, 2021 08:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Clippers - Game 5

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Handlogten's Heros said:
Its not the same net though... nothing is in a vacuum. When teams have to inbound the ball it helps the defense get set and going as well. So the offensive point output might be the same the net effect is different.
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I'm sorry, but this is a terrible point if we're talking about this series specifically. The Clippers only had 9 fastbreak points last night. These are very slow-paced games. Both teams are using a lot of shot clock, and our half-court defense is getting destroyed.

Handlogten's Heros said:
There is also psychology and other parts to this that cause issues. We are too dependent and reliant on the three last night. As the game gets tighter that variance tends to widen because threes are more difficult than other opportunities. there is a game flow aspect to this that goes beyond just looking at offensive rating imo.
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The Jazz have dominated crunch time in this series...

Like, what are we doing here? If the defense is giving up a putrid 127 points per 100 possessions in the series, why are people trying to blame the elite offense for not belng elite enough?
 
Anyone blaming Gobert is utterly pathetic. The bulk of the Clippers damage was done attacking PNR not involving Gobert.

Cherry pick a few plays where he gets beat when there are about 10000 other instances of the others doing absolutely nothing on defense.
 
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MT Steve said:
I'm sorry, but this is a terrible point if we're talking about this series specifically. The Clippers only had 9 fastbreak points last night. These are very slow-paced games. Both teams are using a lot of shot clock, and our half-court defense is getting destroyed.


The Jazz have dominated crunch time in this series...

Like, what are we doing here? If the defense is giving up a putrid 127 points per 100 possessions in the series, why are people trying to blame the elite offense for not belng elite enough?
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It isn’t just fast break... it’s having time to find your man and not be switched on to the wrong guy.

How much “crunch” time has there really been. They deep dicked us in LA... we caught them in game one coming off a 7 game series and shot the **** out of the ball in game 2 it was an outlier performance. Did we dominate crunch time last night? If we are dominating crunch time how come we down 3-2.

The defense is the much bigger problem but the offense wasn’t an unstoppable juggernaut last night.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Anyone blaming Gobert is utterly pathetic. The bulk of the Clippers damage was done attacking PNR not involving Gobert.

Cherry pick a few plays where he gets beat when there are about 10000 other instances of the others doing absolutely nothing on defense.
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Picking three really obvious plays in the most important part of the game is really fair... please point out the three defensive plays he made last night that made a difference for us?

He gets his share of the blame pie... sorry. Injuries get the biggest part of the blame pie but Rudy gets some too.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Anyone blaming Gobert is utterly pathetic. The bulk of the Clippers damage was done attacking PNR not involving Gobert.

Cherry pick a few plays where he gets beat when there are about 10000 other instances of the others doing absolutely nothing on defense.
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I don't think anybody is blaming Rudy for the loss.

I think they are simply pointing out that he is extremely overrated by a ton of people around here. Also pointing out that he is often a liability on offense AND defense.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:


Good illustration of how little help Gobert gets from his teammates on D. Why is no one prepared to bring any help? Terreance Mann and Pat beverly are on the court.
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Rudy isn’t a good perimeter defender and they will continue to go after him 1v1. This is why small ball can play him off of the court.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Picking three really obvious plays in the most important part of the game is really fair... please point out the three defensive plays he made last night that made a difference for us?

He gets his share of the blame pie... sorry. Injuries get the biggest part of the blame pie but Rudy gets some too.
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You've gone off the deep end my friend and have joined the likes of Lopo. Hopefully you return to sanity once the pain wears off.
 
That is why someone like Draymond doesn’t get played off of the court because he can switch onto anyone. I hate Draymond too but it’s just facts.
 
White Chocolate said:
The Clippers were literally trying to get Rudy to switch onto their guards so they could go after him. If that isn’t a liability I don’t know what is. Wake the **** up.
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Did you watch teh game or do you only remember what you want to remember?

Most of the game they go away from Gobert. Yes, they put switches on him too, but he literally does a better job iso guarding than basically anyone else on the team, and he doesnt get any help weakside like he gives to everyone else. Wake the **** up.
 
LoPo said:
I don't think anybody is blaming Rudy for the loss.

I think they are simply pointing out that he is extremely overrated by a ton of people around here. Also pointing out that he is often a liability on offense AND defense.

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Dude Im begging you to stop posting so the Jazz can win Game 6 and 7.

Jazz win, you are silent and nowhere to be found.

Jazz lose, you bring your dumbass mouth to the board to spew garbage.

You the reason the Jazz losing above anything else.
 
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