Kanter 30 Pts and 16 Rebs... And Now the Rest of the Story...

[stitches]

Good post, and thank you for coming to my defense again.

As an average, I think your claim in bold is correct, but March has also seen some pretty questionable performances form Hayward.

Last game, he shot 37% for 13 pts, but did shoot 50% from deep.

vs OKC he shot 25% and 0% from three.

vs GSW he shot 23% and 25% from three for 11 pts.

and on Feb 28th before March started he shot 22% and 20% from three vs the Bucks.

So while his March #'s averaged out to not be troublesome, his consistency has been. The way I see it anyways.

Don't forget he's been battling injuries in that period. He's been pretty banged up in the last month or so by the way he plays in general and forces himself into the paint. He's currently top 5 in the league by FTA only behind Westbrook, Harden, Cousins and Lebron. He's actually been missing some wide open shots in the last month that he was hitting before. I think he's just in a minor shooting slump. I haven't noticed his game being changed all that much in that period.

 

[Sexual Favors]

Don't forget he's been battling injuries in that period. He's been pretty banged up in the last month or so by the way he plays in general and forces himself into the paint. He's currently top 5 in the league by FTA only behind Westbrook, Harden, Cousins and Lebron. He's actually been missing some wide open shots in the last month that he was hitting before. I think he's just in a minor shooting slump. I haven't noticed his game being changed all that much in that period.

True. Hayward has made enormous strides this year.

Could he be getting injured because he is having to do more, when he was already doing so much?

He was missing wide open shots last year, that he would've drained the year before. He had some nights where he was on fire last year too (ironically, the OKC game where he went for 37 pts is one that comes to mind). Not saying Kanter made Hayward. Hayward made Hayward. But Hayward needs someone else to pick up some of the load, or have another incredible offseason to make up the difference and resume consistency (in my eyes).

 

[Capsman]

You probably don't understand because most of us here are fans of the Utah Jazz. Many of us have been fans (again, of the Utah Jazz) for decades. I was a fan of the Utah Jazz before Kanter was born.

So, being fans of the Utah Jazz first we're all happy to hate someone who has gone out of their way to be a villain to the Utah Jazz.

Since you're not a fan of the Utah Jazz I don't expect you to understand.

I'm a DC fan for 30+ years and have lived through players who dissed Washington teammates or organizations. In hockey Jaromir Jagr comes to mind. I never hated the guy or talked about how much he sucked. It's a business. The guy could be the nicest person in the world, more willing to give your kid an autograph on the street but still leave on bad terms. Must be a Utah thing with only one team perhaps.

 

[Capsman]

Hey, look, this ga-guy knows what Enes Kanter thinks and does. He must know how Penes knows how to make his bed, too and his favorite sex position and signature moves.

Time to let it go bro, you either are stalking or getting piledrived by Kanter.

Wow a sexual comment to make a point. How innovative. Do your parents limit your internet time young fella?

 

[Gameface]

I'm a DC fan for 30+ years and have lived through players who dissed Washington teammates or organizations. In hockey Jaromir Jagr comes to mind. I never hated the guy or talked about how much he sucked. It's a business. The guy could be the nicest person in the world, more willing to give your kid an autograph on the street but still leave on bad terms. Must be a Utah thing with only one team perhaps.

I'm kind of surprised that people here seem so passionately hateful towards Kanter, but it's perfectly understandable that we're acting like fans about it. The guy asked for a trade. That's usually a great way to turn fans of the team you asked to be traded from against you. Then he made comments to the media about how little he liked the Jazz and Utah. So yeah, Jazz fans were perfectly willing to make him their villain. He was basically begging for it. To add a little icing to the hate cake he said he didn't give the Jazz 100% and proved that out by boosting his numbers, especially his assist numbers, on his new team.

You Kanter defenders can defend him all you want. This isn't about logic and reason, this is about fans being fans and a dumb *** player pouring gasoline on top of the fire.

 

[MTS]

I'm a DC fan for 30+ years and have lived through players who dissed Washington teammates or organizations. In hockey Jaromir Jagr comes to mind. I never hated the guy or talked about how much he sucked. It's a business. The guy could be the nicest person in the world, more willing to give your kid an autograph on the street but still leave on bad terms. Must be a Utah thing with only one team perhaps.

I'm glad you brought up Jaromir Jagr, because...

https://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf...fans_show_no_love_to_devils_jaromir_jagr.html

He was booed everytime he touched the puck in Washington, 9 years after he was traded.

Even directly after he apologized to the Caps owner, plenty of fans still had nothing but hatred for him.

https://fans.capitals.nhl.com/commu...nt-to-say-sorry-to-leonsis/?hl= jaromir jagr

And the most recent example I could find shows that plenty of Caps fans still hate him. 9 years later.

https://www.reddit.com/r/caps/comments/22mth1/would_you_welcome_back_jagr_this_offseason/

So yeah, gonna call major B/S on your post. Don't make it sound like Utah fans are the only fans in the world who would have acted hostile towards Kanter.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm glad you brought up Jaromir Jagr, because...

https://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf...fans_show_no_love_to_devils_jaromir_jagr.html

He was booed everytime he touched the puck in Washington, 9 years after he was traded.

Even directly after he apologized to the Caps owner, plenty of fans still had nothing but hatred for him.

https://fans.capitals.nhl.com/commu...nt-to-say-sorry-to-leonsis/?hl= jaromir jagr

And the most recent example I could find shows that plenty of Caps fans still hate him. 9 years later.

https://www.reddit.com/r/caps/comments/22mth1/would_you_welcome_back_jagr_this_offseason/

So yeah, gonna call major B/S on your post. Don't make it sound like Utah fans are the only fans in the world who would have acted hostile towards Kanter.

Pwned hard.
Well done

 

[RJF]

I'm glad you brought up Jaromir Jagr, because...

https://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf...fans_show_no_love_to_devils_jaromir_jagr.html

He was booed everytime he touched the puck in Washington, 9 years after he was traded.

Even directly after he apologized to the Caps owner, plenty of fans still had nothing but hatred for him.

https://fans.capitals.nhl.com/commu...nt-to-say-sorry-to-leonsis/?hl= jaromir jagr

And the most recent example I could find shows that plenty of Caps fans still hate him. 9 years later.

https://www.reddit.com/r/caps/comments/22mth1/would_you_welcome_back_jagr_this_offseason/

So yeah, gonna call major B/S on your post. Don't make it sound like Utah fans are the only fans in the world who would have acted hostile towards Kanter.

GD, I like the cut of your jib.

#repped

 

[fishonjazz]

GD, I like the cut of your jib.

#repped

Your jib ain't so bad itself

 

[enchilada_style]

Wow a sexual comment to make a point. How innovative. Do your parents limit your internet time young fella?

Oh jesus I cannot believe this

 

[NUMBERICA]

I don't care so much that Kanter expressed his displeasure here, it's the ****ing entitlement of his entire position and how much the Jazz invested in him to get so little return. That he **** all over everyone after the fact is a factor but it's secondary.

 

[Spinoza]

He is a polarizing figure. He is one of the main reasons why I became a Jazz fan in 2011 after I was a PHX Suns fan. He is probably the best Muslim NBA player in the NBA right now. After Shaq, Kareem, and Hakeem retiring there aren't many left who are that good.

It makes sense then. Turkish fans and Muslim fans identify with Kanter and see him representing them to some extent, so they take his success, his failures, and insults to him more personally.