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Kanter...SMH!
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gothapotamus
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If nothing else he should have been in the game mid 3rd quarter to put a hard foul on Parker or Ginobili! Make them think twice about driving in the lane. A good hard foul is all I wanted.... was that too much to ask?
NAOS
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Here's the abridged version of my thoughts on Kanter as they've changed throughout the season:
"I expect nothing from this kid this year. Our frontcourt is crowded; he hasn't played ball is so long."
"Dude, this kid is pretty good even now!"
"He's way ahead of schedule; could be good in two years; could even be a good ~20min/night guy next year; lots of skills translating. Happy."
"His feel for the game worries me. I hope he plays his guts out this summer and next year's training camp helps him see the game. Slightly worried."
"I expect nothing from this kid this year. Our frontcourt is crowded; he hasn't played ball is so long."
"Dude, this kid is pretty good even now!"
"He's way ahead of schedule; could be good in two years; could even be a good ~20min/night guy next year; lots of skills translating. Happy."
"His feel for the game worries me. I hope he plays his guts out this summer and next year's training camp helps him see the game. Slightly worried."
candrew
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What impressed me about Kanter is that as physical as he plays on defense, he somehow managed to average less fouls per 36M than any other post player on the team with the exception of Jefferson - who of course plays zero defense.
The one thing I expected from Kanter due to his inactivity and inexperience was to be a smack and grab guy a la the great Kyrylo Fesenko and his mind boggling 10 fouls per 36 minutes during his rookie season. But the guy plays hard D and he plays smart D and he obviously takes a lot of pride in it.
The one thing I expected from Kanter due to his inactivity and inexperience was to be a smack and grab guy a la the great Kyrylo Fesenko and his mind boggling 10 fouls per 36 minutes during his rookie season. But the guy plays hard D and he plays smart D and he obviously takes a lot of pride in it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ0wMlRaJRg
Lets not forget his defense on Bynum throughout the season, especially in this game. The guy simply could not back down Kanter, despite being the best Laker in that game. This alone is just such a great attribute, especially seeing as he has the tools where he can guard a center one-on-one, without consistently needing a double team for help (ahem, AlJ)
Lets not forget his defense on Bynum throughout the season, especially in this game. The guy simply could not back down Kanter, despite being the best Laker in that game. This alone is just such a great attribute, especially seeing as he has the tools where he can guard a center one-on-one, without consistently needing a double team for help (ahem, AlJ)
mellow
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NBA bigmen typically develop slower than NBA gaurds. The Bigs have more to learn on offense and defense. They have to adjust to strength and speed of nba and all the subtle tricks of experienced players.
You don't plant pumkin seeds in may and rip the plants out in June just because you don't see a field full of Jack-o-lanterns. And you don't get rid of Kanter because he drops his balls, dribbles too much or can't dance.
You don't plant pumkin seeds in may and rip the plants out in June just because you don't see a field full of Jack-o-lanterns. And you don't get rid of Kanter because he drops his balls, dribbles too much or can't dance.
People have already forgotten about this treadmill test. It just seems weird when people say he is fatigued etc. I haven't seen it yet. It shows his dedication to conditioning despite the fact that he has a bigger frame.
https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/05/23/predraft.camp.wrap/index.html
jazzfan1971
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for some reason Kanter reminds me of Vitaly Potapenko.
I think he'll be better than the Ukraine Train, but, that's the guy I think of when I think Kanter.
I think he'll be better than the Ukraine Train, but, that's the guy I think of when I think Kanter.
I would be blown away if Kanter doesn't improve substantially coming into next year and/or given an amount of minutes that he can actually do something with. Coming off the bench and just being expected to produce and contribute is a tough gig. There's a reason Sloan liked having certain vets like Harpring come off the bench, and it's largely because going from sitting down to suddenly being thrown in the fray and being expected to contribute isn't easy.
Kanter has some things he needs to learn:
-Quick moves: Most young players need to learn patience, Kanter's a different animal, though. He's stronger than anyone he's faced not named Nikola Pekovic, he can get position. If he gets position, he should be prepared for a quick jump hook, layup, reverse, or get to the line. His offense shouldn't be predicated on a protracted siege, that's bad for the offense, and that helps the D. Can some simple moves and really pressure the defense. Move away from the ball-stopping.
-Court awareness/passing: Watch that video that has Shaq, Chuck, and Kenny as Hakeem. Learn the place on the block that he wants and needs to be. Use that so he can do quick surveys of the defense, and so that he knows who he can kick to if the situation reveals itself. Move away from the ball-stopping.
-Picks: So much good offense is based on setting a good pick. I wouldn't say he's bad, but he's not fluent in turning his pick into a weapon for himself as either a PnR player or a pick-and-pop option. A lot of that comes down to coaching and the ball-handler, but he should still work harder on setting stronger picks, rolling faster, and also slipping picks and sliding to the basket quicker. Also can a couple mid-range Js. Move away from the ball-stopping.
All of these things would set up his up-and-under if/when he wants to use it.
Kanter has some things he needs to learn:
-Quick moves: Most young players need to learn patience, Kanter's a different animal, though. He's stronger than anyone he's faced not named Nikola Pekovic, he can get position. If he gets position, he should be prepared for a quick jump hook, layup, reverse, or get to the line. His offense shouldn't be predicated on a protracted siege, that's bad for the offense, and that helps the D. Can some simple moves and really pressure the defense. Move away from the ball-stopping.
-Court awareness/passing: Watch that video that has Shaq, Chuck, and Kenny as Hakeem. Learn the place on the block that he wants and needs to be. Use that so he can do quick surveys of the defense, and so that he knows who he can kick to if the situation reveals itself. Move away from the ball-stopping.
-Picks: So much good offense is based on setting a good pick. I wouldn't say he's bad, but he's not fluent in turning his pick into a weapon for himself as either a PnR player or a pick-and-pop option. A lot of that comes down to coaching and the ball-handler, but he should still work harder on setting stronger picks, rolling faster, and also slipping picks and sliding to the basket quicker. Also can a couple mid-range Js. Move away from the ball-stopping.
All of these things would set up his up-and-under if/when he wants to use it.
Thats the nature of message boards. Gotta have thick skin if you are gonna go against the grain.
candrew
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I'm not dismissing the treadmill test entirely; but anyone who has ever played at any level knows there are a bunch of factors that contribute to fatigue that could never be detected on a treadmill.
Try running on a treadmill for 30 minutes and then spend 30 minutes trying to box out Glenn Davis' fat *** - see which one gets you gassed first.
Ha, ha, ha, that's cruel and unusual punishment!