Kavanaugh Back in the News

[fishonjazz]

Shouldnt the standards for due process be applied to pretty much any time someone is accused of anything, regardless of there legal implications?

You would think this would be the moral thing to do. We are talking about a man's life, reputation, career, etc..

Seriously, wtf happened to the morals and principles of liberals? There are none? What? Please explain. No problem ruing a mans life with an accusation that is based in zero evidence? Thats where we are at? As long as there is political gain then its ok?

Its just another example of the outrageous hypocrisy and double standards the left operates from. Its ****ing joke. Its why no one gives a **** about your cries about Donald Trump. We know you dont really have principles.

I'm sure there are some liberals who agree with you and think kavanaugh is innocent of the accusations.

Wouldn't the moral thing to do be to only question those liberals who have questioned kavanaughs innocence rather than every liberal in existence?
Seems like the standard for due process should be applied anytime anyone is accused of anything. Right now you are accusing millions of liberals of having no morals. Just doesn't seem right to me regardless of any legal implications.



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[Gameface]

Next time I go to a job interview I'm going to demand my potential employer prove that I am a felon or else they must hire me.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Thread Title: Kavanaugh Back in the News

Why? Because the news decided to recycle unfounded accusations about Kavanaugh. Better hope the media doesn't decide to turn their power against you one day.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I don't think anyone here is claiming he's been found guilty of anything by the law, so I'm confused about where due process has been denied.

Let me put it this way, some Democrats have reason to believe he lied under oath and think there should be impeachment proceedings.

Where is the lack of due process here?

Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what Kavanaugh did or didn’t do. He’s now become a symbol for some people. On one side he’s the embodiment of the hypocritical corrupt, misogynistic sleaze of the right. These people see him as a symbol to take down with any and every accusation.
For the other side, he’s the embodiment of a group of people who were once in power but are now being rejected by modernism, feminists, and secularists. These are people who will stand by him no matter how many accusations are made against him. So him fighting back and essentially telling democrats, the media, and celebrities to **** off gets them really excited.

Brett has essentially become yet another political football in our endless culture war.

 

[One Brow]

Shouldnt the standards for due process be applied to pretty much any time someone is accused of anything, regardless of there legal implications?

You mean, when people accuse Hillary Clinton of corruption? Go on, say that because of your deep belief in due process, Hillary is innocent of any criminal activity in your eyes.

You would think this would be the moral thing to do. We are talking about a man's life, reputation, career, etc..

Last I checked, he was still a SCOTUS justice, with all the power and prestige that entails. How horrible.

Its why no one gives a **** about your cries about Donald Trump.

You mean, as opposed to all the allegations of sexual assault right-wingers take seriously?

 

[One Brow]

they said Kavanaugh was clear of wrong doing.

I believe they said they could not confirm certain parts of the stories about Kavanaugh, not that he was cleared.

 

[Zombie]

Shouldnt the standards for due process be applied to pretty much any time someone is accused of anything, regardless of there legal implications?

You would think this would be the moral thing to do. We are talking about a man's life, reputation, career, etc..

Seriously, wtf happened to the morals and principles of liberals? There are none? What? Please explain. No problem ruing a mans life with an accusation that is based in zero evidence? Thats where we are at? As long as there is political gain then its ok?

Its just another example of the outrageous hypocrisy and double standards the left operates from. Its ****ing joke. Its why no one gives a **** about your cries about Donald Trump. We know you dont really have principles.

Yeah OK, I mean obviously people don't use that same standard in everything we do and I'm sure you don't either. If my friends tell me about how a person they know is a thief for example, I may be hesitant to invite to my house. If a work reference on a potential hire at work says the candidate has problems with dependability and is lazy, am I going to ask them to prove it, lest the candidate be robbed of his "due process?"

Of course not. We make value judgments all the time about people without expecting every "fact" we know about them to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

You can spare me the histrionics about the degeneracy of liberals or leftists, thanks. Trump supporters are the last people to have claim over the moral high ground when it comes to politics.

 

[Zombie]

I believe they said they could not confirm certain parts of the stories about Kavanaugh, not that he was cleared.

I believe the specific correction was that the woman someone claimed to have seen be subjected to Kavanaugh's dick being thrust in her hand doesn't remember the incident, although others apparently do.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Next time I go to a job interview I'm going to demand my potential employer prove that I am a felon or else they must hire me.

Agreed.

It’s interesting that those whining about “process” seem to have forgotten Merrick Garland. What about his “due process?” Moscow Mitch wouldn’t even let the senate debate confirming him. But I guess process only matters sometimes.

 

[Hotdog]

You mean, when people accuse Hillary Clinton of corruption? Go on, say that because of your deep belief in due process, Hillary is innocent of any criminal activity in your eyes.



Last I checked, he was still a SCOTUS justice, with all the power and prestige that entails. How horrible.



You mean, as opposed to all the allegations of sexual assault right-wingers take seriously?

Yeah, I think it has been proven a lot of the scandalous things Hillary is guilty of.

When it comes to sexual assault allegations you are looking at two possible scenarios. There is a victim one way or the other. The person being accused may actually be the victim. So yes, Im glad you pointed out that right wingers think about both possible scenarios and consider that the true victim might actually be the other person, so they expect due process to uncover the truth before jumping to conclusions. Something the left hasnt figure out how to do. Why? Because principles and morals. You either truly care about other people or just enjoy watching other people burn for the sake of making yourself feel good.

 

[Hotdog]

Next time I go to a job interview I'm going to demand my potential employer prove that I am a felon or else they must hire me.

You arent even close to an apples to apples comparison. Its more like you got the job and someone who doesnt like you sends an email to your boss and says you assaulted someone 30 years ago, but they have no proof. Should your boss fire you immediately without considering your side of the story?

 

[One Brow]

Yeah, I think it has been proven a lot of the scandalous things Hillary is guilty of.

Of course. Not one person on this board expected you to behave consistently regarding the notions of "due process". You lived down to everyone's expectations.

When it comes to sexual assault allegations you are looking at two possible scenarios. There is a victim one way or the other. The person being accused may actually be the victim.

The person who makes an accusation is always a victim. Whether the assault happened or not, the accuser faces people who call them liars, hurtful, vengeful, insane, and/or many other things. So, when there is a false accusation, there are two victims.

So yes, Im glad you pointed out that right wingers think about both possible scenarios and consider that the true victim might actually be the other person, so they expect due process to uncover the truth before jumping to conclusions. Something the left hasnt figure out how to do. Why?

Because the left understands how your attitude, which was the prevailing attitude for thousands of years, makes actual victims of assault into victims a second time, and also lets actual rapists off the hook. The consequences of reporting an actual rape are already horrific, which means false accusations are very rare.

Here is an example of what a happens when your notions are followed.
https://www.propublica.org/article/false-rape-accusations-an-unbelievable-story

Because principles and morals. You either truly care about other people or just enjoy watching other people burn for the sake of making yourself feel good.

Please, go on about how letting rapists get away with rape (which is the result of the process you uphold) is a good example of your "principles and morals".