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tfivas said:
What if we find out that we're better off with out Gobert?
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Trade Rudy for Porzingas?


The thought of Porzingas and Favors makes me smile.

It would make Quin smile too, he only mentions the benefits of a stretch four/five in every pre and post game interview.

It might take a little extra to get it done. Rudy and Elijah Milsap for Porzingas. Get it done on dec 15 Mr. Lindsey.
 
PG_AB said:
Career high 29 minutes for Trey Lyles. Career high in rebounds one game after setting a new career high in points - He's trending upward!

It's interesting posters here didn't think he'd be serviceable playing spot minutes at C when drafted ...
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I admit my opinion of Lyles and my prognostications were all wrong. I think I posted somewhere that he would never be a rebounder, that it might be two or three years before he got 10 rebounds in a game.

I hate it when my uninformed opinions based on a few minutes of eye test don't win out over the professional scouts, GMs, and coaches.
 
mellow said:
I admit my opinion of Lyles and my prognostications were all wrong. I think I posted somewhere that he would never be a rebounder, that it might be two or three years before he got 10 rebounds in a game.

I hate it when my uninformed opinions based on a few minutes of eye test don't win out over the professional scouts, GMs, and coaches.
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He's looked much better... actually getting in there and physically competing. Can get good looks too, hopefully he can start making them regularly.
 
mellow said:
I admit my opinion of Lyles and my prognostications were all wrong. I think I posted somewhere that he would never be a rebounder, that it might be two or three years before he got 10 rebounds in a game.

I hate it when my uninformed opinions based on a few minutes of eye test don't win out over the professional scouts, GMs, and coaches.
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Trey Lyles had more rebounds in a 3 minute span at the start of the 1st quarter than Bobby Portis has had all season.
 
PG_AB said:
Trey Lyles had more rebounds in a 3 minute span at the start of the 1st quarter than Bobby Portis has had all season.
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He also got more minutes last night than Portis has gotten all season. Can't really play when the people ahead of your are Gibson/Noah/Gasol/Mirotic.
 
PG_AB said:
Trey Lyles had more rebounds in a 3 minute span at the start of the 1st quarter than Bobby Portis has had all season.
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Including Portis' time in the D-league? Because that is where "my man" is now.

So far that is a Whiff by me. But it is only December of their rookie years. I expect, that all things being equal, Portis will be a better rebounder than Lyles throughout their careers.

But lyles is better than I feared.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I'm talking about leadership not points. His point scoring ability is a given, but when he come out tonight aggressive and controls the game that's leadership. That's taking the bull by the horn and saying "I got this".

This is what makes great ones great. Their ability to take games over night in and night out. Hayward has the ability to do so(like tonight), but he has yet to do it on a daily basis. We need that guy if we ever want to be a force IMO.
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Also, if you look at his stats in Wins/Losses, we actually win when he is less aggressive and just hitting 3 pointers. In losses he takes more shots and gets to the foul line more.

Favors is the only player where his W/L stat's point to his aggression being a key determinant of winning games. Burks/Hayward both score more, take more shots, and more FT's in losses (Burks by a huge margin). Wins usually come from good 3pt shooting and Favors down low.
 
mellow said:
Including Portis' time in the D-league? Because that is where "my man" is now.

So far that is a Whiff by me. But it is only December of their rookie years. I expect, that all things being equal, Portis will be a better rebounder than Lyles throughout their careers.

But lyles is better than I feared.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlA3YhSLvzs
 
mellow said:
Including Portis' time in the D-league? Because that is where "my man" is now.

So far that is a Whiff by me. But it is only December of their rookie years. I expect, that all things being equal, Portis will be a better rebounder than Lyles throughout their careers.

But lyles is better than I feared.
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Whiff? You expected Portis to get minutes his rookie year? It was basically written in stone that Portis is going to have to wait til Noah, Gasol, or Gibson leave Chicago before he sniffs the floor.
 
King Cy said:
Whiff? You expected Portis to get minutes his rookie year? It was basically written in stone that Portis is going to have to wait til Noah, Gasol, or Gibson leave Chicago before he sniffs the floor.
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Kinda like Gobert favors or booker
 
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