kobe or bron?

[RandyForRubio]

Fair enough.

I think Kobe is a better scorer all-around, more clutch, much better shooter, much better defender, and most importantly a better winner. Dude wins games, Lebron does make teams instant contenders but losing 4 times in the finals shows he is not a winner, even if he has a custom built team with 3-4 all-stars.

I do think Lebron is bigger, better at finishing with contact, maybe has better court vision and better at looking to pass and is more efficient scorer.

We have seen stats that Bron is more clutch, that he is a better, and more efficient scorer and facilitator, and that he makes his teammates much better in comparison to Kobe.

It's amazing though that Kobe has never shot over 36% on 3 pointers, yet he's the better shooter compared to Bron who's best is 40%. Fwiw, both have about the same number of career attempts per game, Bron has the better percentage.

Statistically, Bron is better. Eye test, Bron is better. It truly isn't that debatable.

 

[RandyForRubio]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2010.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2006.html

Compare these rosters and the team record, and the coaches. Which player would you rather have?

 

[carolinajazz]

I didn't realize that Shaq played with Lebron one year! Don't like either roster, to be frank with you!

 

[Fabtrey]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2010.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2006.html

Compare these rosters and the team record, and the coaches. Which player would you rather have?

cavs had a better squad and they played in the weaker east. also bron is better at making others better. i favor bron 5+ games over kobe. but IMO, that's just a part of the discussion.

 

[Fabtrey]

We have seen stats that Bron is more clutch, that he is a better, and more efficient scorer and facilitator, and that he makes his teammates much better in comparison to Kobe.

It's amazing though that Kobe has never shot over 36% on 3 pointers, yet he's the better shooter compared to Bron who's best is 40%. Fwiw, both have about the same number of career attempts per game, Bron has the better percentage.

Statistically, Bron is better. Eye test, Bron is better. It truly isn't that debatable.

i trust kobe's 3pt shooting over bron's. kobe just shoots too many contested 3pt shots. IMO kobe made more timely 3pt shots than bron.

 

[Jaymz]

How is he not in the conversation?


Kobe is 3rd all time in scoring
Has 5 rings
Scored 81 points in a game
Had a season where he averaged 35, 5 & 5
Has a career average of 25, 5 & 5



Yes Kobe needed help to win Championships. Newsflash! So did Jordan and everyone else. So does Lebron. That's why Lebron is LOSING in the finals more than he is winning. Lebron's two rings are from when he played with Dwayne Wade and Bosh.

Lebron plays in a consistently weak Eastern Conference. Kobe had to battle good West teams (Including the Great Spurs) year in and year out.

Who's to say a prime Kobe couldn't drag a pathetic Eastern team to the finals in the east

Kobe is definitely in the conversation as being a good as Lebron. The question is whether or not they are in the same conversation as Jordan. I think they are, but I also think they fall just short, both of them do, not by much, but they do.


Michael Jordan is in a Tier all by himself. (Barely)

Kobe and Lebron are in the next Tier. You can argue Lebron is better, but Kobe is in the argument. For Sure.

Kobe always has talent on his team, but refuses to use it.

 

[Jazzsneaker From China]

Kobe is better
But I prefer LeBron

 

[Fabtrey]

Kobe always has talent on his team, but refuses to use it.

that doesn't even make sense. kobe went to 7 finals and won 5 when the lakers were talented. even though kobe was a 'robin' in his first 3 rings, he was a great robin. dude flat out dominated. shaq/kobe really was one of the best one two punch combo ever.