What's new
By:

Lakers @ Jazz (7:00pm MTN)

Dali said:
David Locke said something interesting in one of his recent podcasts, of how after 20 games, this is who we are. I thought it was very interesting he said that, because I profusely disagree with him. What we are now, I believe, is not what a team will be at the business end of the season.

I just found it quite disconcerting that he had already decided that this is who we are.
Click to expand...

It was actually a great quote by him and gained back some respect for me. The Jazz bet the farm on Conley being 2018 Conley and lost.
 
Gman said:
Real quick story.

My Brother-in-law is a detective for the sex crimes division of a very large city police department. We were out golfing last year and I asked him how many rapes that he investigates turn out to be false. I figured he would think about it and give me a best guess estimate. But he quickly replied "82%". Yep 82% of the rape allegations he investigates turn out to be provably false. I am guessing that is pretty close to what the average is everywhere. I always knew rape claims were majority false but never would have imagined that high.
Click to expand...
That's absolute garbage and so is your cop in-law. I don't even know where to start in dismantling this toxic, horrifying hogwash and I probably should but I probably won't.

I guess I'll start with a question: what evidence shows a rape is "provably" false? Just because something cannot be proven does not mean it is disproven. This seems to be what he might be referring to, which is not scientific and is outrageously out-of-wack with other, better information.

That you or he would contextualize that as "provably false" is stomach-turning. It's no wonder that most cases of sexual assault never get reported.
 
Last edited:
mellow said:
Dali, i appreciate the optimism, but where is it getting better? Jazz principle players are flat or downward on their career trajectory. And the young guys have little or no upside.
Click to expand...

I think it gets better when each individual player in the team says, this BS is enough. Evidently it hasn't crossed that threshold for a lot of them.

Don't forget that the LeBron, Wade, Bosh Heat team took a whole season of figuring it out. We don't have the raw talent of those 3, but we are better than this. We have to be better than this.

My optimism is a combination of looking at the players we have, strengths and weaknesses. And finally, hope.
 
homeytennis said:
Bring in Trevor Booker. He won't take no crap.
Click to expand...
AngelicPepperyIzuthrush-size_restricted.gif
 
Jazz4ever said:
It was actually a great quote by him and gained back some respect for me. The Jazz bet the farm on Conley being 2018 Conley and lost.
Click to expand...

Okay fine, lets concede that Conley will never play up to his contract at 32 years of age, which I never expected.

Are you saying that you agree with him when you have a look at the whole team, and think this is who we are? Getting blown out by 20 every game?

I'm not saying I'm right, nor am I saying that you're right. I just thought 20 games into the season is quite early to start declaring things, as a big picture situation.
 
Dali said:
Okay fine, lets concede that Conley will never play up to his contract at 32 years of age, which I never expected.

Are you saying that you agree with him when you have a look at the whole team, and think this is who we are? Getting blown out by 20 every game?

I'm not saying I'm right, nor am I saying that you're right. I just thought 20 games into the season is quite early to start declaring things, as a big picture situation.
Click to expand...

Yes. As players most everyone has peaked, and two are on the decline from age (Ingles, Conley), this decline is irreversible. DM has a little more improving to do. You can argue chemistry will get better, but every team has new pieces and are also gaining chemistry.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Yes. As players most everyone has peaked, and two are on the decline from age (Ingles, Conley), this decline is irreversible. DM has a little more improving to do. You can argue chemistry will get better, but every team has new pieces and are also gaining chemistry.
Click to expand...

Your post describes individuality, meaning you've mentioned a lot of players and only mentioned chemistry as a last word. We've won 12 games this season on pretty much individual talent alone. I feel like the bigger picture I was talking about is when the individuals not only carry us with their talent, but elevate the team chemistry as well. I just refuse to think that we will play like this for the rest of the season, as individuals, leaving team concepts outside of the stadium.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top