LeBron is tired...

[seattlejazzfan]

There has never been a player at 260-270 lbs who runs around like a wing and is responsible for everything from bringing the ball up, initiating offense, making plays off the dribble, rebounding with the Bigs, defending PGs to PFs, protecting the rim on occasion, etc. Stands to reason he's tired.

Wings and PGs move around like Lebron, but they do it at 200-230. Centers and PFs weigh in at 260-270 sometimes, but don't run around Iike wings and PGs. Lebron has unique gifts, now he's dealing with unique challenges because of those gifts.

 

[carolinajazz]

There has never been a player at 260-270 lbs who runs around like a wing and is responsible for everything from bringing the ball up, initiating offense, making plays off the dribble, rebounding with the Bigs, defending PGs to PFs, protecting the rim on occasion, etc. Stands to reason he's tired.

Wings and PGs move around like Lebron, but they do it at 200-230. Centers and PFs weigh in at 260-270 sometimes, but don't run around Iike wings and PGs. Lebron has unique gifts, now he's dealing with unique challenges because of those gifts.

....so your saying there is a good reason for him to be tired?

 

[seattlejazzfan]

....so your saying there is a good reason for him to be tired?

It's very possible.

 

[Fabtrey]

There has never been a player at 260-270 lbs who runs around like a wing and is responsible for everything from bringing the ball up, initiating offense, making plays off the dribble, rebounding with the Bigs, defending PGs to PFs, protecting the rim on occasion, etc. Stands to reason he's tired.

Wings and PGs move around like Lebron, but they do it at 200-230. Centers and PFs weigh in at 260-270 sometimes, but don't run around Iike wings and PGs. Lebron has unique gifts, now he's dealing with unique challenges because of those gifts.

i just don't believe bron ever weighed more than 260lb. i just don't believe bron is as heavy as karl was. i think he weighed near 260lb in 2010 and 2011, but not now.

i think bron's weight is around 255lb right now. at the start of the season, bron was probably around 250lb. he changed his diet and looked noticeably lighter.

also bron says he is '6ft 9'. another laughable exaggeration.

 

[Fabtrey]

karl's playing weight was 255lb-265lb

 

[seattlejazzfan]

i just don't believe bron ever weighed more than 260lb. i just don't believe bron is as heavy as karl was. i think he weighed near 260lb in 2010 and 2011, but not now.

i think bron's weight is around 255lb right now. at the start of the season, bron was probably around 250lb. he changed his diet and looked noticeably lighter.

also bron says he is '6ft 9'. another laughable exaggeration.

Whatever. Point stands.

 

[fishonjazz]

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[LogGrad98]

There has never been a player at 260-270 lbs who runs around like a wing and is responsible for everything from bringing the ball up, initiating offense, making plays off the dribble, rebounding with the Bigs, defending PGs to PFs, protecting the rim on occasion, etc. Stands to reason he's tired.

Wings and PGs move around like Lebron, but they do it at 200-230. Centers and PFs weigh in at 260-270 sometimes, but don't run around Iike wings and PGs. Lebron has unique gifts, now he's dealing with unique challenges because of those gifts.

Of course there was magic Johnson doing all this long before LeBron collapsed. But go on. I'm enthralled. The excuses abound.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Of course there was magic Johnson doing all this long before LeBron collapsed. But go on. I'm enthralled. The excuses abound.

Oh snap. Magic had Scott, Worthy, Kareem, Cooper, Rambis, Geen. Pretty much was just asked to play the point for the bulk of his career. Wasn't asked to carry a scoring load or be the team's top defender. Not close, but nice effort, LG.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I'm not a LBJ fan; never have been. I wish there was a way NEITHER team could win a championship. But what he is doing is absolutely incredible. You look at that roster and think there is no way they should have even come close to winning a game. I'm not saying he's the greatest ever. But Jordan didn't come close to a championship until he had Pippin and Grant playing alongside him (and then Pippin, Kukoc and Rodman). Kobe never carried a team without Shaq or Gasol.

I expect GS to win the championship, probably in the next two games. But that doesn't take away from an incredible performance by LBJ.

 

[Fabtrey]

Oh snap. Magic had Scott, Worthy, Kareem, Cooper, Rambis, Geen. Pretty much was just asked to play the point for the bulk of his career. Wasn't asked to carry a scoring load or be the team's top defender. Not close, but nice effort, LG.

bron did have wade, bosh, allen, and many good role players in that heat squad, but went 2/4 in the finals. and bron doing everything wasn't supposed to happen. this cavs team were supposed to
be about the new big 3. but unfortunately love and irving got hurt.

 

[LogGrad98]

Oh snap. Magic had Scott, Worthy, Kareem, Cooper, Rambis, Geen. Pretty much was just asked to play the point for the bulk of his career. Wasn't asked to carry a scoring load or be the team's top defender. Not close, but nice effort, LG.

Hmmm. So you are remembering Scott, Cooper, Rambis, and Green as all-stars or something? Nice try.

And lets just look at Magic's rookie year against LeBron this year. Magic averaged 41.1 minutes per game, LeBron is averaging 41.8 minutes per game. In that finals series for Magic he played every position during the series, and carried the team to a victory, with an incredible performance in the decisive game.

In Game 6, Magic Johnson played what may have been the greatest game of his career. Playing on the road in Philadelphia, Magic (a 6'9" point guard) started the game at center and eventually played all 5 positions in a dominating performance. Scoring a game-high 42 points and grabbing a game-high 15 rebounds—and handing out 7 assists—Magic Johnson led the Lakers to the NBA crown.

But I suppose that LeBron playing the same number of minutes is playing just, you know, way harder, than any super-star has ever done before. Running up and down the court is much harder for him, and he has more physical exertion or something, you know, because of reasons. And stuff.

Sorry, if you can't tell I am not buying it. I think his whole exhaustion thing is an attention-grab. It is all BS. Or he is the most out of shape super-star of all time.