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LeBron opting out hurts our chances of getting first pick?

cooldude32

cooldude32

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With the news of LeBron opting out of his contract I could see the Cavs pushing hard to get him to come back to Cleveland. Does this hurt our chances of trading to the number one pick?
 
Uh, I believe the whole reason Cleveland is willing to move the pick is because they hope Lebron will return and they will have no need for Wiggins.
 
If they think they have a shot at Lebaron it might actually help the Jazz. Lebron will want players around him to win now, not draft picks to win later. The Cavs will want to trade picks for proven players and role players around him. Risky though to make moves and a play at him if it's not a sure thing but if they want to go that direction I'm sure the Jazz would love to help them out.

*edit, dang I'm slow. ^^ these, those and this
 
He could've waited almost another week to announce this. So if nothing else, the timing is good.
 
Triangle Man said:
If they think they have a shot at Lebaron it might actually help the Jazz. Lebron will want players around him to win now, not draft picks to win later. The Cavs will want to trade picks for proven players and role players around him. Risky though to make moves and a play at him if it's not a sure thing but if they want to go that direction I'm sure the Jazz would love to help them out.

*edit, dang I'm slow. ^^ these, those and this
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^^This too
 
If Lebron wants to play with those guys, then this is bad. I'm honestly not sure why he'd be so opposed to that route.
 
Favors now becomes a huge bargaining chip. There aren't too many young bigs as promising as he. While we need him to play near his potential to succeed lebron only needs him at maybe 50 percent.

If he's in Cleveland that's gotta be a huge plus.

Cleveland could have an amazing frontline of Favors and whatever they draft this year. Then add lebron and Irving. Cleveland is set up nicely to dominate the crappy east. I don't know if they're good enough to beat the WC opponent though.
 
Mongoose said:
Uh, I believe the whole reason Cleveland is willing to move the pick is because they hope Lebron will return and they will have no need for Wiggins.
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Exactly.
And they would need to win NOW with Lebron. So they're not interested in rookies. They want experienced vets. You look at their team and their real need is a big. They'd have Irving, Waiters, Lebron, Thompson and Varejao. Get Lebron and they let Deng walk (rumor is that he's headed elsewhere anyway). Thompson is serviceable at PF. Varejao is decent when he plays, but that's not often the past few years. Hawes is an UFA and he wasn't that good for them last season after the trade. So they need a starter at the 5. Who is in best position to give them that? Well, unless they want to make a play for Mr. Pothead (Sanders), Utah is their best trading partner. Good big, signed to a very reasonable 5-year deal.

I actually think Lebron announcing he's opting out puts the pressure back on Cleveland. If I'm Dennis, I play hardball. Cavs need to make concessions. If they don't and they draft Wiggins, kiss Lebron goodbye (or they have to deal him after the draft). If they want Burks? Then they don't get the #5 pick. We're already giving them proven #3 and #12 picks for a raw #1. They can have ONE additional asset from us. Choose between the #5, Burks or next year's top-3 protected pick. As for Jack or Bennett or Varejao? Sure, we'll take one back. But to us, it's a salary dump designed to help Cleveland free up space for Lebron.
 
Can someone explain why Cleveland doesn't want the #1 pick if LeBron has to win now but they want to trade for the #5 pick instead of out of the draft all together?
 
First move is flip the 1 for Love, right? LBJ-Love-Kyrie is a great nucleus, plus Lebron stays East. They need more shooters, but I can see it.
 
franklin said:
Can someone explain why Cleveland doesn't want the #1 pick if LeBron has to win now but they want to trade for the #5 pick instead of out of the draft all together?
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Algebra.... And you thought you wouldn't use it in your life!!
 
billyshelby said:
First move is flip the 1 for Love, right? LBJ-Love-Kyrie is a great nucleus, plus Lebron stays East. They need more shooters, but I can see it.
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Kevin Love is a shooter and is worth double the floor-spacing that a perimeter player would bring. Kyrie is also a really good shooter (provided he reigns in his shot-selection which should be a given in this scenario).
 
franklin said:
Can someone explain why Cleveland doesn't want the #1 pick if LeBron has to win now but they want to trade for the #5 pick instead of out of the draft all together?
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If they let us keep #5 and wanted the entire rest of our team, I wouldn't hang up the phone (especially since the Jazz wouldn't be able to trade Hayward).
 
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